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1899-O Micro "O" Morgan VAMs 4-6 Help

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 Posted 03/18/2016  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list

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Dave, we need to send darth a gift basket or edible arrangement or something.


I'll take it!

The VAM-6 passed through Memphis earlier this afternoon, so it should be here tomorrow. I was hoping for today, but one more day of anticipation is fine with me. Stay tuned.......
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 Posted 03/19/2016  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list
The VAM-6 has arrived!

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 Posted 03/19/2016  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list
Without going into lots of detail, deleting images over 5 MB each is as much about usability and maintainability as it is space.
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 Posted 03/19/2016  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list

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Without going into lots of detail, deleting images over 5 MB each is as much about usability and maintainability as it is space.




Did you mean to post this in another topic?
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 Posted 03/19/2016  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list

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Did you mean to post this in another topic?

No, I was responding to the earlier comment about space on VAMWorld and forgot to quote it.
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 Posted 03/19/2016  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Nice looking circulation cameo on that one darth!





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Without going into lots of detail,deleting images over 5 MB each


Is this typically photos posted on the message board or are there listing images that are too large as well?
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 Posted 03/19/2016  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list
It can be both. Images have grown from a few hundred KB when VAMWorld was started to 5 MB and larger today, with little to no increase in actual information in the respective images. On the message board, people often either don't bother to shrink images or don't know how, and sometimes take the sawed-off shotgun approach to supplying pictures to look at (i.e., if I post everything imaginable, surely one picture will be useful). The sawed-off shotgun photos aren't usually used for the VAM listing pages, but people will upload large files without realizing it. The photo posting guide requests the size of images to be limited.
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 Posted 03/20/2016  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Nice darth. Are you going to try and get slabbed ones? I hear they go for multiples slabbed, is that true in your research? I may have to start looking one now

Btw, I was talking morgans with dan carr and I think I remember him saying that he discovered one of the micro o's. I could be wrong though but that would make sense as to why he chose to do a micro o for his morgan overstrike
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03/20/2016 1:09 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2016  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list
The 1899-O Micro O varieties do go for a premium. In circulated grades, that premium isn't much, but for nice AU and higher the premium is significant. If you find one in MS64 the premium is huge.
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 Posted 03/20/2016  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list

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Nice darth. Are you going to try and get slabbed ones? I hear they go for multiples slabbed, is that true in your research? I may have to start looking one now


I'm gonna put these in those Coin World holders and make my own lables. It's a fun project for me. In my recent research I have found that what messydesk said above is absolutely true:


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The 1899-O Micro O varieties do go for a premium. In circulated grades, that premium isn't much, but for nice AU and higher the premium is significant. If you find one in MS64 the premium is huge.


I really enjoy researching these types of VAMs- the ones that can be detected with the naked eye. The 1890-CC Tailbar also comes to mind. Maybe I'll start hunting for that one. . . .
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03/20/2016 4:16 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2016  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Yeah, the pic thing is causing a little uproar over on vw. I feel for messy being smack dab in the middle of it.

What I'm talking about is that PCGS tried to buy back all the micro o's they slabbed once it was realized they were counterfeits. Now, I hear one's in plastic sell for quite the premium. Have you noticed that while looking around during your buying spree?
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 Posted 03/20/2016  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list
The 1899-O Micro O are all genuine, as are the 1880-O. The dates that were found to be counterfeit are 96-O, 00-O, 01-O, and 02-O. A genuine 99-O VAM 6 reverse was copied for one of the reverses the counterfeiters used. These are the ones that bring a lot of money in PCGS plastic. We can trace something like 27 different die pairs to this operation. Not all used micro O reverses, and one even used an O/CC reverse.
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 Posted 03/20/2016  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
It's worth noting that MP directly equals size. When you throw in things like HDR lighting & true HD it gets even more bloated.

I find that if I take a 24MP shot with my Nikon D3300, it comes out around 5-6 MB; simply opening it in Photoshop, cropping it, and saving it as a JPEG w/85% quality (10/12) reduces that to a much more manageable 500-800K. If you are using a scope camera or 55+ mm zoom lens, simply use your photo editor to zoom in on the diagnostic area in question and then crop out everything else.

It might be possible for a web / programming guru to implement a server-side process on VW that automatically opens and re-compresses any uploaded image files, to save space; sort of an automated version of CCF's Image Optimizer, but one which runs in the background and without user interaction. It could be set up to crop to a default size of 800x600 or 1024x768 which preserves good detail while maintaining visibility on tablets and lap tops.
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 Posted 03/21/2016  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list
The VAMWorld framework doesn't allow for server-side processes for image resizing. We actually have this on the SSDC Registry, I think, but that's entirely a home-rolled system.
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 Posted 03/22/2016  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list

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Nice looking circulation cameo on that one darth!


For some reason I could not put my thoughts into words but.... EXACTLY. Great looking coin!
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