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1982 Penny DDO (Help Identifying If It Is?)

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 Posted 04/05/2016  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greenprint to your friends list
I think it might be the first one is this one better? Let me know which part of the coin I should take different photo of? I'm not really good at determining DDO from md lol



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 Posted 04/05/2016  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
No worries - learning the difference comes with time spent here. And even then, sometimes it's tricky. Have a look at the thread I started on my 1971 LMC. There is MD on my coin, but that top bar on the 7 has me scratching my head. I need to work through that process as you will here. You will get to a comfortable position before keeping/ejecting a coin.

I took a stab at toning down the glare. Less zoom on LIBERTY would help. Get the full word in a picture. Use a grocery bag to diffuse the lighting (but be careful of fire). Here's the pic I tried to rework.

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 Posted 04/05/2016  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greenprint to your friends list
Ya I'm not sure what that line is either on the 7. Does this look better? I took the light off on my microscope and put a plastic bag on my desk lamp. The only other light is on the ceiling. Thanks for all your help.

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 Posted 04/05/2016  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
With two lights it over enhances the coin. (makes it look larger than it really is)

The large date copper coins tend to look like doubled die, when they are just normal for that year.

Here is a normal coin image and the 1982P-1DO-002 LIBERTY side by side.
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 Posted 04/05/2016  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Here's my setup when taking shots with my iPhone.



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 Posted 04/05/2016  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
For a shot like LIBERTY, you can do pretty well with a camera phone. Essentially, you rest the phone on the can tripod (filled with quarters for mass) at an optimal focal length. Zoom in but not to the point you get pixelated. Take a clear shot and edit on your computer. Lighting is important but normally you want to diffuse it and be as close to the zenith as you can be without causing a shadow. With time and practice, your mastery will develop.
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 Posted 04/05/2016  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
You might want to take a 4 inch wide piece of paper and staple or tape it into a circle to prevent unwanted light from reaching the coin Rackster. That will remove glare from your images.
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 Posted 04/05/2016  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
OK, thanks. I will give that a try. I've been using a piece of leftover window blind felt to squeeze between the LEDs of my microscope and the subject coin. Works reasonably well but the LEDs are still quite bright.
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 Posted 04/05/2016  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Can you adjust the light on the LED lights. If you can, you might make a paper cone to direct all the light through one opening. (Kind of like a funnel) If the light are not hot and can start a fire, this might work.
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 Posted 04/05/2016  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greenprint to your friends list
is this better? I put a plastic piece over the scope

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 Posted 04/05/2016  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Yes. A lot better. Note the centers of the 'B' on LIBERTY? Compare that with the image of the normal coin I posted with the doubled die. Then note the centers on the 'B' on the doubled die. Your coin looks normal to me now.
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 Posted 04/05/2016  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Nice greenprint. That clears it up. Unfortunately, a normal 1982 LD cent.

Coop - I was thinking cone too. The LEDs are cool, but there are 10 tucked up under the hood (no adjustment). I really need to spend some quality time working on the lighting. I've gotten it to a 'good enough' level, but I'd like to take some respectable pictures. I'll work on the 1971 pictures tomorrow. That top bar doesn't look like MD in hand; thinking DDO still. Better pictures might bear this out. Here's my setup with/without the felt-

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I used a white coffee filter,more then one layer- cut it to fit over the LED lights on my cheap AmScope and I used caps to cover all but one bulb on my Celestron scope.
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 Posted 06/29/2020  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
You might try two layers to dim it more if needed, or rice paper, or thin white paper. Just to cut the glare.
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 Posted 06/29/2020  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Your first set of images looks like a DDO to me.
LIB looks to have thickness. the L I are almost touching and the centers of the B are very small.
Something about the 82 looks promising as well. It might be lighting but it looks like a notch on the top right of the foot of the 2. The irregularities to the top of the 82 might just be metal flow issues though.

Someone mentioned looking for markers, but DoubledDies.com has more die pairs.
http://doubleddie.com/828781.html
Your last images seem to show a die scratch going almost due east from the top of the L and ending just above the R. This seems to match one of the die scratches on the WDDO-001. If the die scratch does match, I would say yours is an earlier stage and was made before the one in the DD images.
Compare yours to WDDO-001 images and let us know what you think.
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