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Valued Member
Canada
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At first I couldn't see any obvious repunching or die cracks...
Tried to go off of the tiny bit of material at the top left of the 9 (looks like the tiniest hint of repunching), no luck there.
Then I noticed a small amount of extra material on the bottom of the E in CENT... no dice
Finally went through the "ID MY COIN" and Looked at Vine Loop #7 - Looks like a Medium Gap (Late)
Next Vine Loop #2 - hard to tell Either group G or H
Finally Found a Die Clog in the D of CANADA (I think)
-> Obv 39a (no group G or H...)
-> Obv 62 (no group G or H...)
Then Went to Leaf 9 Details (in "ID by REV MARKERS") - Group E or P
Reverse E2, E3c, E5, E5b, E27b, E32B, P2, P4 match the shape of Stem of Leaf 9.
Gave up on that, then went to "REV Group Sorting aids" - Sorting Table
Loop 2: Broken
Stem 10: Original
Stem 8: Broken
Stem 9: Repaired
That gives group G or I.....
Back to Stem 9 details that match Group G and I: G2 (Stem not broken) G4 (Stem connects to leaf too high)
By this point I'm going psychotic haha
This doesn't count as a guess. I have no idea but hopefully someone can make something from this info.
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
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Look at The G in GRATIA also the stem leaf vine 9 ----and thats where I got lost  Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Welcome to the wonderful wacky world of 1859's GregJG! I have been on that merry-go-round you've just described many times. Beware of loop 2's that look broken, but are actually partially repaired. You correctly identified the medium gap late on loop 7 which is key. Don, the G of GRATIA and the stem to leaf 9 will be helpful clues in this one. Loop 2 detail.  Stem to leaf 9 detail.  Loop 7 detail.  GR of GRATIA detail.  Edited by Phil310
05/10/2016 06:58 am
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
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271 OBV27 REV H1
Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1101 Posts |
Exactly!! Good work, Don!! That was a little tougher than some of them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1101 Posts |
Number 36.   |
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Valued Member
United States
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I am going with PC59-36a1
Reverse E37a - I was able to use the die break at leaf 12 & stem at leaf 9. Apparently this reverse has a repunched C & T in cent along with a repunched 9. Was not able to clearly see that in the pictures.
This reverse is paired with 2 obverses and due to the absence of any die breaks, it appears to be obverse 36a.
I could be wrong on this one, but.....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You are correct, northcoin!
Using the absence of die breaks is a good way to determine that the obverse is 36a and not 36 which would have some heavy die breaks when paired with E37a.
Once again as on coin # 34 die state pairings are very helpful.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Mystery coin #37. Reverse only to begin.  |
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
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J13b REV
Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
1679 Posts |
543 OBV54
Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1101 Posts |
Correct on the reverse. Check the die state chart again. which of the 3 obverses is most likely based on the reverse die state? Another example of the die states being very helpful. Here is the obverse.  |
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Pillar of the Community
New Zealand
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OBV54a =54a1
Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1101 Posts |
Yes. PC59-54a1 is right for this one. Notice how thick the left foot of the last A of CANADA is. This is a good marker to distinguish 54a from 54b which has a much thinner foot.  Edited by Phil310
05/12/2016 7:13 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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One of the easiest ways to identify varieties is with die cracks. Some dies are covered with them like P15 in late states, which is one of my favorites.
Anyone have any nice die crack photos you would like to post?
Tomorrow we will start thread # 3 and concentrate on die cracks for the next few mystery coins.
Edited by Phil310
05/12/2016 07:35 am
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