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Acid Dating Buffalo Nickels

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 Posted 06/21/2016  12:58 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Yes Cascade, I did a double soak on a 14-D that I was trying to rub and make more natural looking. To my surprise the date disappeared and I just did a re-soak. It worked and I sold it.....for less than I had in it lol. It was fun experimenting though.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex12780 to your friends list
Yeah I really don't like the stain nic-a-date leaves. Plus with the price usually being $5 plus shipping I figure it's not worth it.
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 Posted 06/22/2016  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Yeah I really don't like the stain nic-a-date leaves.

That's why I prefer a vinegar soaked piece. The color is even with no staining.
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 Posted 06/22/2016  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list
I have a small handful of Nic-a-Date victims.
The stain is abhorrent. ...it's just appalling to view.
Yes, the overwhelming curiosity to see the date is cured, but I don't like owning them regardless of the date being revealed by this method.

"Cleaned coins" is the other of the two issues with this.
So, opinions vary when Buffalo nickels are the issue, obviously, but, my personal preference would be to leave it alone and in its present state.

I'm perfectly fine NEVER knowing a date on a group of them. I'm not sure why, but it doesn't gnaw away at my brain...
Not even the slightest bit.
That doesn't mean I haven't spent a massive amount of time straining my eyes and using many different magnifications and lighting trying to make out the date...but once I've reached that point of "non-legible", I just store it with the others of the same problem and move on.
I know I would never buy an "altered", chemically cleaned Buffalo nickel, so to me they're just about the same value as a "dateless" one.
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06/23/2016 02:02 am
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 Posted 06/22/2016  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add duncanbishop24 to your friends list
I can't stand the look the nickels have when dating with Peroxide AND vinegar. I strictly go the vinegar route, in a glass container.

I leave them in there until I can see a date. It's worked well. I was in the process of doing over 100+. Found some nice teen dated ones so far. I have put together a set of over 36 nickels out of the 64 from acid dating and I have only spent $5.50 for them.

It's more of a fun challenge to do it this way and do the 64 for $64 challenge that has been posted on CCF.
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 Posted 06/24/2016  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Here are photos of the ones never to acid dip:

https://goccf.com/t/229769&whichpage=2

1920, 1921, 1924 These have a wavy ribbon dropping off the left side of the obv pony tail (see photos); all others can be dipped in acid since they have a straight ribbon

This page above came from the best 6 page thread I've ever read at CCF on this whole Buffalo 5 cent subject called,

'How to get dates off of dateless coins?' found at

https://goccf.com/t/229769&whichpage=1


Try white rice vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, 50/50, with pinch of salt for 2 hours immersing the bufs.

good luck

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 Posted 06/24/2016  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnFluharty to your friends list
I had to look up what acid dating meant. I have a dateless, but I think I will leave it that way.
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 Posted 06/27/2016  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list
If you sell a acid treated coin is it a moral responsibility to reveal this to the buyer? I think it should be. These are altered coins. In the future imagine if they discover a way to treat all those LSQ's and LWH's with no dates. If sold as regular coins this could hurt non-treated coin costs. There are many classic coins that are smooth that if some way is discovered to bring out lost details this would shake up the Coin World. Is this good or bad for those who bought non-treated coins. I have non-treated full set of Buffalo nickels.
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 Posted 06/27/2016  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list

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I have non-treated full set of Buffalo nickels.


I need to better understand your question and your inventory status since it appears that you have a full set of Buffalo nickels that have no dates showing.

If this is indeed the correct status, how then do you know that all of your nickels cover all of the dates and dates w/ mint marks from '13 - '38 without first uncovering the worn off dates.

Maybe I am missing something here.
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 Posted 06/27/2016  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list
I take "non-treated" to mean....no nic-a-date...no cleaned...or dipped Buffs at all.
Regardless of all the methods shown to reveal a date....he has a "full set" that have NOT been cleaned by any method whatsoever....& "full set" would imply that all dates and mintmark are indeed legible.
No question there, just a statement.
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06/27/2016 7:53 pm
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 Posted 06/27/2016  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AES to your friends list

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If you sell a acid treated coin is it a moral responsibility to reveal this to the buyer


Well, it's one of those things that are just obvious. The acid in Nick-a-stuff leaves an obvious mess and the strange dull pitted surfaces left by vinegar and or hydrogen peroxide soak are hard to miss.

It's not something I'm particularly interested in, but I have seen some people do it very well. I think there is a CCF member with the handle weirdsteve, that has this down to an art. My apologies in advance for mangling the username.

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 Posted 06/28/2016  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add otto to your friends list
I have had 4-5 acid-dated buffalos in my collection. I have replaced them one-by-one, except one rarer date. I've decided not to spend the money, as these coins can get expensive and the one I have is pretty nice.

I do think that acid-dating can be a fun activity that is appropriate for coins with no discernable date.
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 Posted 06/28/2016  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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If you sell a acid treated coin is it a moral responsibility to reveal this to the buyer? I

Morally I don't know. Ethically yes you should definitely inform them. I'm not sure I understand what morals are, but I do understand ethics. Morals are usually described as behavior dictated by God or a religion. Problem with that is something that is "moral" under one God or religion isn't moral under another. I've been told that since I am an atheist I can't have morals.



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The acid in Nick-a-stuff leaves an obvious mess and the strange dull pitted surfaces left by vinegar and or hydrogen peroxide soak are hard to miss.

To an experienced collector yes, but a novice may not understand what he is seeing.
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When I say "Morals" I mean "ethical". I do not believe God, Jehova, Jesus H. Christ, or any other supernatural beings have much interest in my coin collection. These all powerful, and all knowing beings have better things to do (creating universes etc.) than to take interest in our coins. Although I would say a little prayer for an 1893-S
Morgan in MS condition to be under my pillow on Saturday morning.
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 Posted 07/01/2016  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I say go for it and enjoy. Nothing like an acid trip.
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