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Rest in Peace
United States
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Nway to make a long story short,this guy says its junk or as good as, I played dumb from the start,said I found them and he was all like 'a merchant would not buy this' ,'there to brown et ci,et la
but after that small rant aboout how bad they where, he still went out and offerd me 200€ for the lot
so I denied the offer and went on my way... I can imagine how you felt. I don't know why the dealers go through all that drama. Just make an offer or not! But no! They have to try to make you feel bad about what you have to sell. It's a waste of everybody's time. Anyway, at least you got some information. The least the stamps are wort is 200 Euros - probably. The pics are great. It makes me want stamps -- but no new hobbies for me. It's my goal to get rid of as much of my stuff as I possibly can. Just put those stamps in a box. Take a break from them and then in a month or so, look for another dealer. Ask for 500 euros -- you never know...accept whatever you feel comfortable accepting. |
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no big deal Buddy,its already water under the bridge,but thx for the encuraging words,all of you!!
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
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Amai Gertje! Dat zijn een heleboel postzegelkes die ge daar hebt! Wat zal meneer Spaghetti jaloers zijn! Maar hebt ge nog wel tijd voor Marlèneke nu?   Anyway, on a serious note, this is quite an impressive collection. More than 'just' a jump start on collecting stamps, to be honest. And some of the important work, the sorting, has already been done in a way: too bad that you don't like that part, as it will be necessary to get an overview of what you actually have. As said, please try to conserve them in a proper way so they retain their value. As soon as they get 'rusty', it drops to the value of old paper. Agreed that most coin and stamp shop dealers have chosen the wrong profession and should have become actors in Shakespearean dramas. Most really seem to be hoping for a Tony Award when their rant is done. Which is why the internet is such a great invention, as are sites like ebay for selling stuff. Anyway, next time you are in a stamp shop, ask the dealer why he (still) offers that kind of money if he first states that he doesn't buy it. It's quite likely that there's just a few stamps that have actual value to him, while he considers the rest to be worthless junk. That doesn't mean that it's worthless junk, though: you probably get different views and opinions when asking several stamp shops. If you ever come to Nijmegen, the Netherlands, then I can recommend the local coin and stamp shop there: he's honest about things when buying (including stamps) and also in motivating why he comes to his conclusion. There's much less drama there than in most other shops I know. I spent quite a bit of time in that shop and learned quite a bit when just sitting there and listening. For the dutch coins of 1941: do you have the zinc or the silver 10 cent coins? All my Dutch zinc wartime coinage is as black as I drink my coffee, and there's not much to be done with that, for what I know... but if you know, then I really want to learn!  |
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I may not be the best adviser but I would have taken that 200 euros, regardless of what he said, and even if he didn't want to give you a single euro over that. Unless of course that's not the only dealer around.
While selling them as smaller lots may bring a better result, as you mentioned, it's quite a chore to sort large amounts of stamps (even if they are pre-sorted by countries). It will take many, many hours. Double that if you want to check the quality (remove any damaged ones before photographing/scanning the lots).
Then, of course, the "better" stamps may turn out to be fake, have fake overprints, or fake cancels. I'd let the dealer bother with all this.
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It is very difficult selling something you don't understand. If there was one stamp in there worth $1,000, you'd never know. I'd suggest you send it all to Heritage and let them evaluate it before selling it to anyone.
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Belgium
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lol Ultra you a funny dude bro!
i was talking about the silver 10 cents
de zink ones,once they are affected in any way you can't get them good again.
zink alloy suck for coins!
so I had a guy come by the house yesterday and he was a friend of my mom
she had askt him if he could take a look at these stamps.he has been collecting from childhood
so he came and told me only the belgium ones are already way over 200€ in series
he went on to say there might be good ones in the envelope but they should be sorted first otherwise ist notthing more then a LOT.
i offerd them to him but he said he did't want to take advantage of me ...LOL?
so he went on ,and gave me a adress and then said the bast way to go is to auction them.
he offerd to go along because he knows whats series and stuff is inthere and said he even does not trust the auctioneers.
looks like its going to work out after all :)
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United States
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 Sounds like your mother's friend is a decent guy. Keep us informed about the auction and the auction results. I am very curious.  I am glad that you found these stamps and that they will end up with someone who wants them. It would have been a real shame if they had thrown out in the trash. Good luck! |
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Norway
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Sorry dohcollector, I just was in a bit too happy coffee affected mood not to have a little fun with our Belgian friends. Sorry about you being kicked out by Wales, though. But hey, at least you made it to the championships, not something Norway nor Netherlands can say... Nevertheless, that's a good offer from the man. I suggest you do the sorting of those stamps, even if it's not the most interesting work in the world but it might be worth the investment, it seems. At least you got confirmation that the offer from the stamp shop which said it was worthless (and nevertheless offers 200 Euro for it anyway) was just for him to get a fantastic bargain. Good that you didn't do it. Now it's just to find someone who wants to offer you something near the catalogue value... For the blackened silver... Black silver usually means 'corrosion', which can be taken care of in two ways: polish it til it shines is one way. I once got a tip to put to wrap it in aluminium foil together with sodium carbonate (sold as 'soda' at the cleaning product isles in the supermarkets in Belgium and Netherlands) and then in hot water and let it be there for a while (some hours). Not sure if you want to try it on the 10 cent piece, but it should do the trick of a reverse oxidation process. This way you shouldn't be 'losing' any silver, which you will when polishing it. |
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United States
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For the silver coin -- I'd recommend an acetone bath. Be sure to get pure acetone and not nail polish remover. You can search for "acetone" on this site and get a lot of information. I've done it. It smells bad so you have to do it outdoors or at least near an open window. I don't know anything about the method UltraRant described.  |
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Belgium
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hey Ultra and buddy
i have no good words about football just because I don't like that sport.
as for the belgium players they are hyped ,all the way up, I think it plays as good as any cafeeteam LOL.
on a serious note
acetone won't help to remove the black, buddy
I've seen the baking soda trick on You tube but I don't have baking soda to try that
i just use vinagar and a drup of detergent between the fingers as those don't make alot of scratces rather then a cloth or piece of fabric.
only thing wrong with this is it does't always remove all the black.
but it shure will start blinking again.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Vinegar? Noooooooo!  It's your coin so do as you like. |
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Norway
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Geen ingredienten om te bakken, slechts schoonmaaksoda om te kuisen! Dat is iets heel anders... Het voornaamste ingredient zou natriumcarbonaat moeten zijn.
NOT baking soda! Soda for cleaning, it's completely different stuff!
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Valued Member
Belgium
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uhm oh lucky I did't try it hahaha lucky you speak dutch ,i do have the other soda in the house hehehe funny as for buddy i know I should not do that ,but it was my only way out, they where black as soot ,so its diluted vinegar with some detergent and after that a acetone bath plain acetone did not help.i tryed that first here is the result only thing wrong with this is that you can c that they are dipped because there is some black residue left   1&2  3&4  5,6&7  1&2  3&4  5,6&7  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It appears as though you got most of the black stuff off. The coins didn't get scratched so that's good.
I would think that vinegar would eat away at the coin.
Are you keeping these coins? I'd be interested to see what happens to them over the years. But there is no way to know if the vinegar will cause any changes in the future or if the coins were exposed to something that will continue to damage them.
It's a shame when coins get so dirty. There's only so much you can do to restore them.
Thanks for the pics.
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