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New Member Looking For Information On 2004-D Error On Front

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 Posted 07/15/2016  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list
It's glue.You can see the back side of Lincolns head along with part of the bust because the glue dried clear. The copper behind the glue is nice and shiny because the glue prevented oxygen & moisture from oxidizing that area at the same rate as the rest of the coin. It's glue
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 Posted 07/16/2016  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
NO VINEGAR. If YOU choose to "clean" it use PURE acetone only. Before using acetone read up on it here on CCF by typing in the search box upper left of page.
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 Posted 07/16/2016  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob Levi to your friends list
If it did happen at the mint it is Likley a reverse lamination peel that flipped and was struck on.
Everything seems to line up dead on. Seems like a lot of trouble to go through glueing it on just right only to put it back in circulation.
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 Posted 07/16/2016  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list


The thing that puzzles me is "RTY" in LIBERTY..

Also difficult to know what you have without personally checking it in hand..
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 Posted 07/16/2016  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
I just re-read your description,and what you call fused
I call embedded..

The more I look at this, the more I believe it to a genuine error..

Is it possible to post other photos on different angles?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say 95% chance it is a genuine error with a 5% chance it is post mint created..

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 Posted 07/17/2016  05:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Just PMed Mike,
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 Posted 07/17/2016  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
If the foreign item occupies a level above the rest of the field and design, then it was added outside the Mint. The presence of a design rim impression and an incuse, mirror-image LIBERTY adds to this possibility. The presence of these details makes no sense from the standpoint of a struck-in error.

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 Posted 07/17/2016  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
I think this requires in-hand examination as a single photo just doesn't do it..
I did question the border earlier, then edited it out (thinking it was possible a fragment from the previous strike feel on the planchet, then struck the coin)..
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 Posted 07/17/2016  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
As others have suggested, this is most likely a transparent layer of glue that another cent was formerly attached to. Glue will often discolor the underlying metal. A gold color is not unprecedented.
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 Posted 07/17/2016  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
Wouldn't a soak in acetone answer the question about whether it is glue?
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 Posted 07/17/2016  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list

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Wouldn't a soak in acetone answer the question about whether it is glue?


I believe Mike Diamond along with other members have answered the question.
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 Posted 07/17/2016  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
If it were my coin, I would certainly want to verify that it is, in fact, glue.
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 Posted 07/17/2016  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add munnbob to your friends list
WOW.. Thank you everyone for the comment. I've been out salmon fishing all weekend. I just got back and read the forum and all the post.

With regards to me calling is fused was because I did not know what it would be called otherwise. My father is the collector not me. I did go through a lot of the rolls of pennies in the 70's and 80's with him.

I check with the Colonel, he said it was from a $20 box he purchased at the bank. This is a mixed box of used pennies.

Regarding the soaking in Acetone. He said he will have someone pick up some tomorrow.

As soon as my brother can take the pictures I'll post them.

Thanks again for all the replies. Very interesting coin and great replies to the post.

Bob
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 Posted 07/17/2016  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
Looks like a stain on the opposite side of the coin around the word TRUST where the mirror image probably came from then flipped over and stuck or was moved and glued down again in the new area-let us know how the acetone works out
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 Posted 07/19/2016  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list
very interesting post
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