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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Aside from the shield issue, I'd say MS62. With the shield issue it would get a "details" grade from NGC and PCGS. The net grade value would be something like AU-50, but most collectors would prefer a "straight grade" AU-50.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8137 Posts |
MS details due to the shield. I suspect that this one didn't go to PCGS because they wouldn't straight grade it.
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Valued Member
 Australia
338 Posts |
Interesting replies! Bill is 100% correct on what SEGS said, "MS62 Details - Obverse Digs" to be exact. Paid the equivalent of 235US for the coin which I'm very pleased about. Will still go to PCGS with my next grading run just to compare what they think, I was hoping it would grade an AU58 straight (might be a bit wishful).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1499 Posts |
My advice would be don't waste your money on PCGS because I think you have gotten what they will tell you for free here.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36905 Posts |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6398 Posts |
Looks slightly circulated so AU-58 details. It doesn't look obviously cleaned but PCGS would likely call it damaged due to the "obverse digs" on the shield.
Cracking coins from straight-graded SEGS slabs for submission to PCGS is a chancy proposition. In my experience you often lose 1 grade if the coin is problem-free. You are unlikely to get a satisfactory result with a coin already flagged as damaged.
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Valued Member
 Australia
338 Posts |
Bit of thredomancy but I sent this coin as part of my 8 free submissions to PCGS. Straight graded at AU58 (much to my surprise). Good work those who picked it!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11920 Posts |
 congrats 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4989 Posts |
I think this coin is technically mint state but has enough issues, possibly a very light cleaning, that PCGS market graded it at AU-58.
Edited by fenton 12/06/2016 8:00 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
From an SEGS details holder to a PCGS problem-free holder is quite an accomplishment. Congratulations.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2125 Posts |
AU-58 details. I think the damage on the shield will give it a details grade from PCGS.
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Valued Member
 Australia
338 Posts |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2843 Posts |
Congrats on that. The PCGS picture makes this coin look really nice. Did they do any conservation to it? Also, what is at 2 o'clock (2nd star south of cap) in your picture it seems like a decent dig in the denticles. It does not appear in the PCGS image. Is it on the holder?
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Valued Member
 Australia
338 Posts |
Thanks Bigsilver, nope was graded straight without conservation. Yeah that was on the SEGS slab, only noticed it now that you mention it!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5029 Posts |
Congrats. That is a very nice crossover to PCGS.
Edited by scopru 12/10/2016 07:47 am
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