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Rival To 1943 Bronze And 1944 Steel Lincoln

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 Posted 09/04/2016  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
Sweet coins! Would be more impressed if the 1943 was struck on nickel as well. I'm sure PCGS had to do a double take on the 1944, they probably thought it was initially a Henning nickel.


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 Posted 09/04/2016  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heynow to your friends list

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Not a US coin collector but those are impressive. Any stats? How many of each are there known?


The 1942 in unique as far as I know. For the 1944, there is one more and I think there are a couple of more in other years like it. That's all I know, was hoping others could add info.
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 Posted 09/05/2016  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I gotta ask, does the 44 have a mintmark on the reverse?
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 Posted 09/05/2016  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JC Stevens to your friends list
If NO it could be a Henning Counterfeit 1944 Jefferson nickel. Could you post an image of the reverse.
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09/05/2016 10:45 am
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 Posted 09/05/2016  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
I've been wondering about the MM myself and forgot to ask last night
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 Posted 09/06/2016  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heynow to your friends list

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If NO it could be a Henning Counterfeit 1944 Jefferson nickel. Could you post an image of the reverse.


Sorry for delay,enjoying that last weeked of summer,thanks for your interest, here is a photo of the reverse.

Its cetified PCGS secure, so its 100% legit.

I think my pair is rarer than the 1943 and 1944 Lincoln pair, what do you think?



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09/06/2016 09:51 am
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 Posted 09/06/2016  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dd27 to your friends list
Just to make sure I understand correctly, the 1942 does not have a large P above the dome. Is that correct?

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 Posted 09/06/2016  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heynow to your friends list

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Just to make sure I understand correctly, the 1942 does not have a large P above the dome. Is that correct?


That's correct, here is a photo of the rerverse of the 1942.



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 Posted 09/06/2016  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dd27 to your friends list
Regarding the 1944-P, the deluxe edition of the Red Book (Mega Red) states, "Genuine examples of some wartime dates were struck in nickel, in error." However, no other information is provided.
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 Posted 09/06/2016  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dd27 to your friends list
When did PCGS certify the coins? If it was more than a year ago, I'm curious why they did not write them up as rare varieties, e.g., on their CoinFacts site - http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Hierar...+(1942-1945)

Overall, I think your question is a good one and goes to the central question, "What makes a coin valuable?" There are many folks here who can answer that question better than me, but I suspect one very important aspect is widespread awareness of a mint error variety. The more coin collectors know about these two rare mint error nickels, the more interest, and (probably) the more desire by collectors to obtain this specific variety.

Increased desire to obtain = increased value.


An article in a major numismatic magazine/journal by a respected numismatist would most likely be considered a cool article by the publishers, please the publication's readers, and, of benefit to you, increase widespread interest in, and desire for, these mint error nickels.

If you are comfortable saying, how did you obtain these two marvelous coins?
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 Posted 09/06/2016  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heynow to your friends list

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If you are comfortable saying, how did you obtain these two marvelous coins?


I got them from coin auctions from the major guys.
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 Posted 09/06/2016  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dd27 to your friends list

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I got them from coin auctions from the major guys.


Good eye!
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 Posted 09/06/2016  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JC Stevens to your friends list

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Just to make sure I understand correctly, the 1942 does not have a large P above the dome. Is that correct?


No, it can have a large "P". The letter "P" (Philadelphia) WAS used for the first time on a US coin, the 1942 Jefferson nickel. But only on the Wartime Silver Alloy (1942-1945) Jefferson nickel. Nickels minted before October 8th, 1942 'Copper Nickel composition' will NOT have the large "P". You will find 1942 Jefferson nickels with and without the large "P".
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 Posted 09/06/2016  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dd27 to your friends list

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Just to make sure I understand correctly, the 1942 does not have a large P above the dome. Is that correct?


No, it can have a large "P". The letter "P" (Philadelphia) WAS used for the first time on a US coin, the 1942 Jefferson nickel. But only on the Wartime Silver Alloy (1942-1945) Jefferson nickel. Nickels minted before October 8th, 1942 'Copper Nickel composition' will NOT have the large "P". You will find 1942 Jefferson nickels with and without the large "P".


Right, I did know that, although it certainly might not have been clear from my question. Clarification is always good. :O)

What is unique about Heynow's 1942 nickel is that it was produced using a silver planchet, but it does not have the large 'P' above the dome as it should if it were an average Type Two 1942 Jefferson nickel.

~ Mark
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 Posted 09/06/2016  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Here is what they look like side by side:
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Type 1 proof
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Type one Business Strike
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