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Sweden's New Circulation Coins

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 Posted 11/07/2017  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carrigna to your friends list
Dear X2an,

I am writing this post because I have been following your post on new Swedish banknotes and coins with much interest.

I asked my friend in Sweden to get some new coins for me. She was able to get them. We are struggling to find a 10 kronor (with slightly modified motto or was it a heading for King? Forgot which it was.) coin in UNC or near UNC condition.

She does not use bank.

I am trying to think of better places to find a 10 kr. coin in a better condition.

Perhaps you have a good advice or pointer for my friend and me? I would be most grateful for your help in advance.

My friend said she would be glad if you know any way for her to find such a coin in a better condition.

Many thanks for your help in advance. I really enjoyed your posts on new Swedish currency! This post is interesting as well--especially about Norwegian prices and supermarkets. :)

Kind regards,

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 Posted 11/07/2017  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add X2an to your friends list
Hi Carrigna, thanks for showing interest. That's why I do this (except I've seemed to forget this thread for a while )

I think chances are quite slim. The 10 kr coin hasn't been minted since 2009 and time is really taking its toll. Despite cash usage might be down, 10 kr still buys you some smaller stuff so they will end up being used, if not in larger bunches. They are definitely popular.

The vast majority of these that I see are 1991's and occasionally 1992, 1993, 2000 and 2001-2009.

There's usualy quite some time in between a shiny 10 kr coin. Luckily, most of those are the lastest time I think you're looking for. I'd say the revised portrait (2001-2009) has two subtypes, with the date digit spacing making the differance 2001-2006 and 2007-2009 respectively). Of the shiny, aUNC coins that do come my way they're mostly all the latter.

I haven't encountered any "pockets" of uncirculated 10 kr coins and I doubt banks would be of any help. Uncirculated rolls do not seem to be avalible anymore after 8 years of no minting. Perhaps new ones are due soon?

The only hope you would have (circulation wise) is to hope you'll get one in change from a coin shop where the staff have recently broken up a year set. I've got several UNC circulation coins this way that are way too perfect to have seen circulation, but the risk might also be that you're getting the 1991-2000 type. That of course required you to have business at those places which unless you're selling off silver coins or other coins wouldn't really be the business of the average person.

Other than that, you'll just have to buy them unless you've somehow got them from circulation. It's not impossible, just rare. These coins are avalible in year set and these are typically quite cheap for the later years, but always over face value, shipping not included. Single, uncirculated pieces should definitely be avalible on ebay or the Swedish version, Tradera. Buying there should be cheap, shipping usually 14 kr or about $1.80. Naturally it's in Swedish but translation software should do the trick.

Hope this helps!
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 Posted 11/08/2017  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carrigna to your friends list
Thanks, Xan2, for your very informative and helpful post!! I really appreciate your taking time to answer my question.

I am a bit saddened that it would be difficult to find such 10 kronor coin. I will pass your explanation onto my friend.

Thanks for your kind welcome, Jbucks!

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 Posted 11/09/2017  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list
I agree with what X2an writes. 10 kronor coins haven't been minted for almost a decade, so getting any in uncirculated state is getting tougher. If you can get a set then that's a good solution. For the individual coin, Tradera (Swedish) or Finn (Norwegian) or catawiki (European) might be of help. with the latter you have to look for 'shops' which are hidden somewhere deep down inside the site. All will come with postage, though, so finding a local coin shop and go for a set might turn out cheaper.

Glad you like the information about Norway and our supermarkets too. I hope it doesn't discourage you from having an interest in our country here!
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 Posted 11/13/2017  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carrigna to your friends list
@ X2an, you were a big help with your informative explanation on 10 kronor coins! I was able to pass your information onto my friend. My dear friend was a bit disappointed as she really wanted to help me out. I had to assure her that it is perfectly OK. :)

@ Thank you, Ultrarant, for your wonderful insightful information on Sweden's 10 kronor coins. It is much appreciated!! Why, yes. I did enjoy learn about your country's supermarket and foods. Yu confirmed that my friend who lives in Oslo who told me about having to shop in Sweden for food and some drinks.

My apologies to both of you for my belated reply! I was preoccupied with other things that I had to address first. Again, thank both of you for educating me!

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 Posted 11/13/2017  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add capsnhawks to your friends list
Being a collector of Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and Icelandic coins and currency, I am always keeping an eye open for them at my local coin shop here in northern Virginia. The shop pulls in a lot of world coins and currency and Scandinavian is never in short supply. To date I have not seen any of the new Swedish coins or currency. I have come across the new British pounds, though. Bought a 2016 and 2017 this past Saturday. Has anybody come across any of the new Swedish stuff on this side of the pond?
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 Posted 11/13/2017  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carrigna to your friends list
Capsnhawks,

You have a good question! I have not seen new coins myself.

As I understand it, it appears Swedish people are using less of their currency now and are using more of their debit cards/credit cards to pay for virtually everything.

It might mean less coins in the circulation now comparing to the usage in the past?

X2an would be able to answer your question. Ultrarant might be able to answer your question as well as he is a frequent visitor to Sweden as he lives in Norway.

Good luck!
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 Posted 11/15/2017  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add capsnhawks to your friends list
Carrigna,

Thank you! Yes, your thoughts on coin/currency usage in Sweden are certainly true. I'm just going to have to be patient, keep my eyes open, and constantly check with my coin dealer.
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 Posted 12/05/2017  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carrigna to your friends list
Hi X2an,

I got new Swedish coins. They look great. I like an effigy of King Gustav much better this time around.

However, they feel "cheap" comparing to old coins. Please do not take this as an offence to you and your country. I meant as in purchasing power.

I do not know if it is necessary to have 2 kronor coins? I thought Sweden would be better off having 20 kronor coins instead?

Your thoughts?

My friend did find a 10 kronor in much better condition but it has a lot of scratches on front and a chip on the reverse's rim. :(

She said the same thing as you or Ultrarant that it is difficult to find 10 kronor coin in better condition.

I will wait and ask someone who could help me out in getting one for me in the near future.

Right now, I am just happy to have new Swedish coins for my collection. :)

I believe these coins might be the last series of coins for Sweden in the coming years. Just a feeling I have.

Sad to see them go.

Thank you so much for your help, X2an and Ultrarant. If not for your help, my friend and I will go around and around.

PS Two Garbo stamps were not postmarked on the envelope!! I am not sure if they are any use? Let me know. I am surprised that postage is nearly same as ours here.
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 Posted 12/07/2017  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add X2an to your friends list
Hi Carrigna

I too think these new coins feel "cheap". They're quite the stark contrast to the old coins especially in size - the 1 and 5 krona due to their sizes still mess with my brain a bit. The 1 kr is just too small, it should be a 50 Öre coin instead due to both its size and colour. But it's not. I think many have said this, typically with "but who uses coins anymore?"

Though I feel purchasing power-wise, they feel mostly in line, but still on the cheaper end. 2 kr coins can actually buy you something, albeit very small items. However a couple could easily buy you a snack unlike the Euro "copper" coins that really are next to worthless. Many people here have comented on how similar they feel to the Euro coins and I wonder if not the "cheapness" feeling comes from there. But that's beyond me.

I think it's been very necessary to introduce a (new) 2 kronor coin, it just makes you end up with less coins. It was incredibly noticable at first when they were essentially the first new coins out and got blended in with the old masses of 1 krona coins which really weighed down your wallet. To me it was a very welcomed addition.

I too think we'd be better off with a 20 kr coin but we ended up without one. It seemed like a clash between government institutions, not a well-considered debate. Either way, I'm not too bothered as there's really nothing I can do. The 20 kr notes are mostly quite folded and sometiems dirty but the increased thickness of them have made them much more tear-resistent, so compared to the last series banknotes they fare much better.

I am genuinely interested to know when the Riksbank will issue new coins. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the mintages are know for the new coins, and we're well into 2017 now and I've yet to see any 2017 dated coins, so I reckon the chances for seeing any new dates on coins will be slim for the near future. It's just the 10 kr coin - since it hasn't been minted since 2009 I do think they are atleast considering issuing new dates of these soon. The 1991/1992 mintages were huge (>100mn for both) and the later issued coins (2001 - 2009) have relatively low mintages. This is clearly represented by coins in circulation, but I do wonder if this will be enough for a while. Coins do wear out, disappear in various ways, get disfigured/destroyed or just forgotten at home. Either way, it feels like the amount of 10 kr coins in circulation should have dropped noticeably in circulation without releases for eight years straight. And it's not like early or late mintages have been in storage for later releases - like I've mentioned earlier I rarely see 10 kr coins in good condition, even later issues are not perfect although generally in better condition as one could expect with less circulation time. Perhaps the drop in cash usage delays this with less coins being needed for circulation? That's the only plausible reason I can think of. But considering the 2013 commemorative 1 krona release was still noticeable and "issued due to commercial demand", it still seems a bit strange. 10 kr coins have a much better circualtion intentive due to their high denomination but even they get out of circulation sometime.

Time will tell
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 Posted 12/07/2017  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carrigna to your friends list
Indeed, I agree with you on all the counts here.

I just have a wee question for you: why did they withdraw older 2 kr coins back in the 1960s or was that 1970s?

They could have continued with this denomination.

I am glad we agree on that it would be good to have a 20 kr coin for Sweden.

Sometimes government does something ridiculous and one could not do anything about it. Perhaps this is one of these actions?

Thank you for your kind input on my post! Appreciate it very much!

PS I realised I am erroneous in thinking that stamps are of Garbo. They are not her but Bergman.
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 Posted 12/10/2017  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add X2an to your friends list
I don't think they actually withdrew them considering there was no demonetization. If there would have been then it would probably have been earlier. Instead, I'm pretty sure the coins were too large for general circulation, afterall they weighed exactly as much as two 1 kr coins but had a much larger diameter. It would've been much smoother to have two smaller 1 kr coins instead. I'm also very sure these were hoarded as the .400 silver 2 kr coins are today VERY abundant despite low mintages. Infact, I think these suffered the (almost) exact same fate as in the US and Canada. A big coin with a lower denomination worth half the amount and also weighed half as much. Less smooth, so people stopped using them, people noticed they became rarer and starting hoarding them and thus they gradually disappeared. Changing the composition didn't help either. It worth to notice that the mintages for 1 kr coins (1968-1971) were well in the 10's of millions whereas 2 kr were in single millions. For the .400 silver versions, there are occational year gaps for 2 kr coins (1960, 1962, 1967 and no silver for 1968) where no coins were minted while 1 kr coins were minted as usual and in good amounts. Mintages for the silver 2 kr coins only twice broke 2 million while the last silver 1 kr had tens of millions in for several years and most of the 1960's. So their absence was big even then, just looking at the numbers.

And to be fair - its time had come anyway. 1971 was its last year of mintage along with the 1, 2 and large 5 Öre. A 5 kr coin was introduced in 1972 (although the note was printed up until 1981) so inflation already rendered it too big.

Now I have to correct myself: the reason we don't have a 20 kr coin is not because a power clash between governments, but rather different recommendations. The financial ministry recommended against a coin but the Riksbank recommended it. A vote was held in parliament in 2009 (?) which resulted in favour of keeping the note, but not by a large margin.

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 Posted 12/11/2017  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carrigna to your friends list
X2an,

Thank you so much for quite interesting and informative explanation re: 2 kr coins!

If I had known that they do have 2 kr coins, I would have worked harder to find it for my collection. :) I did not know they have low mintages!!

I regret that I did not keep older ore coins. I was a kid and I said to myself: they are no good because they do not use them anymore. I put them into a jar of duplicate coins from all over the world. A big mistake I am telling you. :)) Oh, well... live and learn as one says.

I still have not gotten around to collect these bronze large ore coins.

I did get a small bronze 50 ore coin....cannot believe they reduced its size to reflect its purchasing power. How sad!!

I think I have some 25 and 50 ore coins ---not bronze ones.

Ah, Parliament voted on retaining 20 kr note. Very interesting.

That makes me wonder how many Parliaments/Congresses actually finalise the decisions on coinage. I do know that our Congress has a last say on our currency.

Not sure about the UK---it is usually the Mint and the Treasury who decided on changing the coinage. Parliament only voted on the decimalisation on the recommendation from the Treasury.

I will ask my uncle in Scotland if he knows the fine details.

Yes, I noticed the difference between the two 20 kr notes I have. One gets smaller and its colour changes but its paper feels differently from older 20 kr notes.

I do have 5 kr and 10 kr notes---they were very common back then when I was a kid. They are all UNC. I did not realise 5 kr coins were introduced relatively recent.

I like older 5 kr coins with King Gustav on them---as opposed to ones with King Carl's monogram on them.

Cheers!





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