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Rant! Got Neg'd On An Item I Sold For $0.99

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 Posted 10/18/2016  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
It's not right that seller's don't have the same protections as buyers. In ebay's eyes, the buyer is always right and the seller's side of the story is moot.
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 Posted 10/18/2016  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
Just so you know, when I buy from a seller, I don't care if their feedback is less than 100%. I judge the negs for myself as most of the time they are just self-centered bidiots. If the seller replies that there was no communication, then that shows that the seller cares enough to want to fix any problems. If there is any consistency to the negs, then I avoid the seller.
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 Posted 10/18/2016  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
As long as a seller's rating is over 99%, I'll look at the feedback to read the reasoning behind the neutrals/negatives and the seller's responses. There are enough bad apples among the buyers that I won't discount an imperfect seller off the bat, but they need to demonstrate they have at least some idea what they're doing.

In your case, "not like the picture" would make be analyze the picture more closely (and look specifically for a statement that it is the item being offered) and that picture needs to be clear and not masking any imperfections (spots, scratches). A professional response definitely works in your favor. It sucks to get negative feedback but it can still help you improve.
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 Posted 10/18/2016  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list

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most notably that the buyer has only been an eBayer since 4/29/2016 and has very limited transactions whereas I have close to 17,000



If most of your 17000 feed backs are as a seller, then no worries. Most companies would kill to have a 99.4% customer satisfactory rating.
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 Posted 10/18/2016  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
I have no words. If I were in your position I would be enraged. I was very upset at a recent neutral that I felt was undeserved. Can only imagine if it were negative.....
Sorry to hear about your bad experience.
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 Posted 10/18/2016  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I feel your pain and understand your frustration but all you can do is move on. Everybody knows that Buyer's pretty much call the shots and have free reign. The risk of an unwarranted Neg is just another "cost of doing business" on ebay.

The thing that gets me is a "neg" for a 99 cent item has the same impact on a Seller's reputation and status as a "neg" for 5000$ item does.
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 Posted 10/19/2016  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dd27 to your friends list
I just started selling a some extra coins on ebay and I've tried to learn how it works reading posts here, and on the ebay Community forums, where the consensus is quite clear:

ebay has gradually shifted away from championing small business entrepreneurs toward an often irrational 'the customer is always right, no matter what' policy. Apparently, it is in ebay's economic interest to do so (for various reasons).

Of course, the long-term answer to this problem is a smart competitor or two who recognize an opportunity to capitalize on ebay's increasingly poor reputation among sellers. I don't think that has happened yet, but hopefully it is on the horizon.




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Just so you know, when I buy from a seller, I don't care if their feedback is less than 100%. I judge the negs for myself as most of the time they are just self-centered bidiots. If the seller replies that there was no communication, then that shows that the seller cares enough to want to fix any problems. If there is any consistency to the negs, then I avoid the seller.

Very well said TypeCoin971793. I do the same. I have purchased from sellers with neutral and negative ratings because it's clear the seller worked hard to resolve the concerns, based on their responses to buyers' complaints.

On the other hand, I have not purchased coins from sellers who respond to negative feedback with rude, crass comments, as I believe this says more about the seller than almost anything else. [Btw, I do not mean to imply that weerdsteev has or would post such responses - just sharing my approach to evaluating sellers.]

~ Mark
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 Posted 10/19/2016  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeysanders627 to your friends list
I got out of ebay about four years ago. I used to sell 1 gram silver bars. I was very successful at it, but I knew when it was time to leave. More competition was coming up to challenge ebay and I saw an attitude of wanting to milk the seller as much as possible by charging fees.

By the way, one of the greatest ways to minimize paypal fees is to open a micro account. That is for sellers who engage in sales of less than $10.00. Just letting people know about it. Most people don't even know that it exists.
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 Posted 10/19/2016  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list
Contact the buyer - try to understand exactly why they left the negative and try to make the recovery (full refund, different coin, etc.)

Your best chance is getting the buyer to edit their feedback.
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 Posted 10/19/2016  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bsb333 to your friends list
Negative feedback would burn me up too. Had one once. Guy sold me IHC with poor quality picture. I asked if diamonds were visible on ribbon and he said yes all 4 of them. When I got it I could not distinguish one full diamond. I asked for a refund and that was okay. He turned around and bought a 1955 poor man's double die cent from me which was from an uncirculated roll of Lincolns and said it had spots on it and was cleaned or something like that. I promptly refunded him before he even sent coin back to me. He gave me a negative feedback. When I called ebay and told them that this was a retaliatory move they told me that it was "the buyers opinion" . I was ready to quit selling at this point and had that one negative feedback on my page for 12 months. Then it went away and I have a clean 100% today which I try with diligence to maintain.
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 Posted 10/20/2016  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
It might be appropriate to reveal the buyers name so we could block them on our ebay accounts.
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 Posted 10/20/2016  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list
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 Posted 10/20/2016  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
and sorry that happened to you Steve. I dealt with some nut last year that told me I sold fake coins, and that he was going to report me to the fbi or something. Really shook me up for a while.
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 Posted 10/21/2016  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list
The really embarrassing part of this is that when I first saw the NEG and looked at the buyer's history I was certain that when I reported it to ebay that they'd remove it. I was so confident that I replied to his feedback that the NEG would be removed shortly. Well, I guess THAT was wrong-think...so all I accomplished was to make it look worse than it was. Sigh.
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 Posted 10/21/2016  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Call ebay and ask to change your reply. I agree that the reply you provided to their feedback actually makes things look worse.
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