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Valued Member
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"I notice that there are two varieties of the 2004 50 cent coin with the coat of arms reverse. One has a larger effigy of the queen on the obverse with the A's in the word 'Australia' being pointed while the other has a smaller effigy with the A's having a flat top. I believe that the larger effigy variety was not issued for circulation and is only available in some mint sets. Are you able to tell me how many of the larger effigy, pointed A type 50c coins were produced?"
I'll post their reply here when I receive it.
Well here's the reply from the RAM. It looks like they haven't got it 100% correct suggesting that all 2004 uncirculating mint sets only contain the "pointy A" fifty cent coin.
"Thank you for your email to the Royal Australian Mint.
The variation was a result of a technological transition from tools produced on a mechanical reduction machine to tools produced on a computerised engraving machine. The "A"s with a flat top were produced using the new computerised engraving process. All of the coins issued into circulation used the new technology, all uncirculated coins used the old technology and both technologies we used for proof coins in roughly equal proportions."
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Valued Member
Australia
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Thanks Proko,
This is similar to what they told us in 2004 even though we were finding both varieties of 50 cents in Mint and Baby Mint sets, along with the Proof Sets. Look for the total number of Mint and Baby Mint sets produced and then maybe consider about two thirds would have the pointed A 50 cents as a rough guide. It is still small in comparison to the millions of the flat top A variety issued for circulation.
Cheers
Wayne
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Valued Member
Australia
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Thanks for the info Wayne. Just wondering can someone supply those mintage figures for the Mint and Baby Mint sets. I assume they might be in the Maccas, which I don't own ....yet. Otherwise can someone direct me on how I might find them. Thanks.
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Valued Member
Australia
335 Posts |
2004 Circulation 20c - 400,000 (Poined A) & 71,609,000 (Flat Top A)
2004 Circulation CoA 50c - 17,918,000 (all Flat Top A)
2004 Mint Set - 67,795 (mix of Pointed A & Flat Top A)
2004 Baby Mint Set - 31,036 (mix of Pointed A & Flat Top A)
2004 Wedding Set - 3,963 (believed to be all Pointed A, specimen quality)
2004 Proof Set - 50,000 (mix of Pointed A & Flat Top A)
2004 Baby Proof Set - 16,000 (mix of Pointed A & Flat Top A)
2004 Fine Silver Proof Set - 6,500 sets that were made up at random from a pool of 7,135 Pointed A 20c and 1,033 Flat Top A 20c and from a pool of 1,915 Pointed A 50c and 5,853 Flat Top A 50c. (I have sighted Pointed A 20c and both types of 50c.)
Wayne
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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theres pointy top CoFs from 04?
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Valued Member
Australia
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Thanks Wayne! So, excluding proof coins, there could be a maximum of 102,794 year 2004 pointy 'A' 50 cent coins produced. But more likely the figure could be somewhere around two thirds of this....approximately 67,000.  That's pretty scarce! Spedward, not sure if you are confusing 'Centenary of Federation' with 'Coat of Arms' but yes there is a 2004 pointy 'A' Coat of Arms fifty cent coin. |
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Valued Member
Australia
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Proko,
Firstly one needs to consider the Wedding Set coins differently to those of the Mint Sets. The dies/coins are prepared and struck differently. They are like non-frosted proofs so there are ONLY 3,963 of each denomination.
The 2004 mint uncirculated 50c coins from the Mint and Baby Mint Sets total 98,841 but we know these consist of both the Pointed A and Flat Top A varieties. You are probably correct in considering the Pointed A may account for around two thirds maximum - it would most likely be somewhere between half and two thirds of the total.
You should also note that ALL 2004 Student Design Fauna 50c coins appear to be the Flat Top A obverse. This obverse therefore is unique to 2004 and to only the 20c and both 50c issues.
Wayne
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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doh I meant centenery ones,,. I had a 2004 pointed A 20c and I threw it back!! I knew they were a bit scarce but not that much.
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New Member
Australia
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Brissyboy,
Was interested in the 2007 50c variety you spoke about. Am I right in saying there is a thick 7 and a thin 7 on the 2007 year date on the obverse? Do you know which one is the more common and where I can pick up the rare variety?
Cheers,
Ben
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Valued Member
Australia
335 Posts |
Hi Ben,
It is not the 2007 50c. The variety occurs with the 2007 20c. There are two obverse die types. They are easily distinguished by look at the 7 in the date but other text is also different. The Mint said the thick 7 was low mintage in circulation coins but the thin 7 was low in the mint/proof sets. I'm still to sight the thin 7 type in the sets.
The 2007 5c also have reverse varieties.
Send me a PM with your email address and I will send you a pic of the 20c varieties.
Wayne
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New Member
Australia
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Hi Wayne,
Excuse my ignorance but what is a PM?
Ben
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Rest in Peace
United States
2668 Posts |
make did sense not This thread.
Note to self, never ever collect confusing contradictory obfuscating Australian monies.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Ben, a PM is a personal message via email. It is hit and miss as to whether you will be able to send or receive one as you don't have 50 posts yet. To try, click on the name of the person you want to send one to, you will see "My Contact Info" and a link to send them an email. I just tried with yours and it says no contact info specified. It will appear when you have made 50 quality posts. However, you may be able to send one to another member, who will then be able to reply to you. Parklane64, don't feel bad, doesn't make much sense to me either. I try and stay out of this section as it gives me a headache. Just when you think you have finished your collection, Wayne shows up and points out about 3000 varieties.  |
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Valued Member
Australia
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Thanks Sean (head banger man).
Ben, if you cannot email me from my profile, send one to me at wayne_r_roberts AT optusnet.com.au
I'm not sure if we can list that here but it is done and I wait in judgment.
Parklane, sorry if it gets confusing. People always go off topic and then others (me) reply. Australian decimals do have a lot of die changes and die varieties. It is only now, 42 years since decimalisation that people are really starting to take an interest in them. The key is to get them documented, researched, recognised and published.
Wayne
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New Member
Australia
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Wayne,
Found a thin 2007 20c today. Nice and shiny with no obvious marks. Thanks for the help with this.
Ben
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