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Is This The 1888/7 Indian Cent Overdate?

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 Posted 11/19/2016  04:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
Not seeing anything indicating that it's the overdate, but it's your call if it's worth submitting.
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 Posted 11/19/2016  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Indeed a very worn specimen, but I think the last pic shows what's left of the stub of the 7. Date position of each digit relative to the denticles confirms this as far as I'm concerned.

I have owned several of these and even the G-04 slabs seem to sell at good money even though the overdate is not really visible to the naked eye, and often hardly so even with a glass. Never really understood this.

Nonetheless, if it were mine, I'd spend the money to have it graded at PCGS (not ANACS). Not much of an investment given the return potential.

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 Posted 11/21/2016  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kheldim81 to your friends list
I decided to send this coin to grading after I have couple more coins that are worth sending to PCGS (and if I ever figure out how to deal with customs Finland and U.S). I'll post results I hope sometime in late december or january.
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 Posted 11/21/2016  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
PCGS is the right choice, and by all means let us know! Good luck.
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 Posted 11/21/2016  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list
Khedlim, it will not be December or January. PCGS turnaround times in america have been around 3 months! You might be looking at April or may. Good luck on the grades though
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 Posted 11/22/2016  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
CoinFacts (AU 58BN):



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 Posted 11/22/2016  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Here's the 2nd 8 side-by-side from the OP and CoinFacts (AU 58BN) respectively:

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It should be more revealing to have slightly brighter incident lighting originating from a SW direction towards the OP specimen for this type of shot.


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 Posted 11/23/2016  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Can't argue, but I've owned a couple of these slabbed G-04 or G-06 where it was almost impossible to see thee stub of the 7 even under magnification. I made my analysis based on the digit positions relative to the denticles, and while I'm hardly Rick Snow, I have not seen another die with these positions so close. Your suggestion of a new camera angle makes sense.
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 Posted 11/23/2016  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
The stub of the 7 in the op's photo looks too much toward the center of the 8.
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 Posted 11/24/2016  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree. The right hand spot is probably just a reflection of some sort of coincident circulation mark, but the left spot is in the correct area for the right edge of the stump, if you follow.
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 Posted 11/24/2016  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
Seems more likely to be an incidental corrosion spot to me, but hope I am wrong!
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 Posted 12/01/2016  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kheldim81 to your friends list
Little update. I searched and fought with customs and post office (Finland) for several things. I'll be sending this and few other coins for grading to PCGS-europe march 2017 via coin shop from Germany.

So next update to this post from me will either be sad face or slab picture.
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 Posted 12/01/2016  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
Good luck, rooting for you and looking forward to the results!
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 Posted 02/03/2017  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kheldim81 to your friends list
For this coin I didn't send it to PCGS. I asked opinion from Eage eye webpage admin, who I think is Rick Snow. For me Admin said dentacles are off from 1888/7 variety so there is that.

For march submission I'll go with 1883CC Morgan and San Francisco Oakland Bay Bridge Commemorative. Anyways happy hunting and I'll see you next time.
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 Posted 02/06/2017  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biker Coin Guy to your friends list
From looking at the pic below the one with the white glove, it looks like a good candidate for an FS-305. You can see several of the little pieces of 8 in the curls.






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