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Sorry. I Know You Guys Are Going To Hate This But I Need Help, 1969 S DDO?

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 Posted 01/02/2017  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
you should sell these to your "previous experts".
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 Posted 01/02/2017  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list

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you should sell these to your "previous experts"

Or did you maybe purchase ut from one of them...
Either way, not THE double die for certain.
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 Posted 01/02/2017  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list
Here's something that might help. Here is a picture of an actual 69-s double die from PCGS.

Sorry.-I-Know-You-Guys-Are-Going-To-Hate-This-But-I-Need-Help,-1969-S-DDO?

Look at Liberty on this coin and compare it to yours. Hope it helps.
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 Posted 01/02/2017  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
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The images aren't clear enough to see for sure. The Machine Doubling seen on the date is close to what is found on some 1969-S DDO-002 cents.

Even if it does turn out to be the 002, it's a minor doubled die, not the famous 1969-S DDO-001 that is worth the big bucks.

I don't see any other doubling that would make me think this is a doubled die, but clearer images may help.

There are many experts out there that can't even tell the difference between a large and small date 1970-S and can't tell worthless doubling from a true doubled die. Some of these people are even coin dealers.

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 Posted 01/02/2017  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list


What experts are you referring to?
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 Posted 01/02/2017  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Not even close. It will be obvious.
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 Posted 01/02/2017  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mayflower2020 to your friends list
Welcome to the Forum. Don't get discouraged. Keep asking questions, and keep looking. You are in the right place to find the answers to your questions!
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 Posted 01/03/2017  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dacone710 to your friends list
Thanks everybody for the replies I knew it wasn't the infamous double day that shows a clear huge doubling but I believe this to be called is pivot Machine Doubling am I not correct like a #5 or #6? I know what the infamous 1969 S is worth I just wanted to know what the machine style was worth that I have because I found a third one yesterday. The only question I had is How come one style of Doubling is more expensive than the other? Is the reason only because they caught it after 40,000 were already accidentally made and then they destroyed 20,000 of them or what I don't get it? that's all I was asking and no I didn't buy these I found these coin roll hunting. And I want to think CWB for his knowledgeable response and non-demeaning or snide reply you are a gentleman and a scholar my friend thank you.. I've only been collecting and searching for coins for six months and I feel I know more than some of you guys of been doing this for 15 years not say I do I just feel like it but I'll tell you this when the reasons why you guys can't get no new blood into this hobby is because of some of your guys comments when people ask questions you guys think you know it all and talk down to people all the time and then treat everyone as such..
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 Posted 01/03/2017  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
Hey Dacone710.
I hope you did not take offense to my reply above. This community is very friendly and sometimes ppl make (intended to be) friendly sarcastic remarks. Stick around and you will see.
Either way I apologize if my remarks came across as snide.
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 Posted 01/03/2017  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
Here is a webpage about the 1969-S Lincoln Cent: http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/1...20Cents.html
It has several pictures of real doubled dies and the MD's as well.
Here is just one photo to give you an idea of some of the MD cents you might find:


Sorry.-I-Know-You-Guys-Are-Going-To-Hate-This-But-I-Need-Help,-1969-S-DDO?

Some collectors will buy this type of doubling on ebay, but it is a striking error not a die variety.
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 Posted 01/03/2017  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ross Son to your friends list
I know I am no expert on doubled dies, but this has helped a lot to differentiate a doubled die versus Mechanical Doubling.



Sorry.-I-Know-You-Guys-Are-Going-To-Hate-This-But-I-Need-Help,-1969-S-DDO?

Also, the 1969 S coin has to look 100% identical to the doubled die 1969 S (below) in all doubled die areas to be the real deal.


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 Posted 01/03/2017  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I would like to read what coop has to say.
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 Posted 01/03/2017  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
to the Community!

I moved your post to the appropriate forum for the proper attention (namely, Coop's).
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 Posted 01/04/2017  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
This is not the big DDO for that year. It looks like a normal common one from that year. A lot of the cents during the 1968-1972 years had the machine damage on the devices. But to me this coin is not showing hub doubling. It should look like this:
Sorry.-I-Know-You-Guys-Are-Going-To-Hate-This-But-I-Need-Help,-1969-S-DDO?
Sorry.-I-Know-You-Guys-Are-Going-To-Hate-This-But-I-Need-Help,-1969-S-DDO?
Even with smaller images you can spot the real deal:
Sorry.-I-Know-You-Guys-Are-Going-To-Hate-This-But-I-Need-Help,-1969-S-DDO?
I think the numbers for this die is quite low in number. Probably close to less than 50 known examples. The numbers are slightly climbing though. 20,000 would be a huge number though.
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 Posted 01/04/2017  05:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
I think there were most likely a lot of these minted, but over the years they have been lost in circulation like so many other cents and there are most likely a few uncirculated ones sitting in a bank vault or someone's closet right now.
I am still looking for one .
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