Help Grading And A 1999 Lincoln Cent

An MS Lincoln CRH ? I'll wait till Crazyb0 gives his assessment .

T-Bop.....

By definition, if this coin is found "CRHing", MS ANYTING ain't gonna happen, it is a CIRCULATED coin (yes, I'm yelling!) In CRH, coins have been "handled" by at least TWO parties...one to return to a bank or other collecting service (Coinstar etc.) which then goes to a central Fed processing point which again is "handled" putting thes coins from canvas transport bag (usually) into a MACHINE sorter/wrapper. This transport and sort causes all sorts of "Bumps, Dents and Scratches".

ANY question?


Oh ya, AU-59, highest circulated grade possibly given. If the coin came out of an OBW (original bank roll) of ALL 1999P's THEN and only then can you truthfully, numismatically call some an MS grade. BTW, OBW canbe a misnomer as well...coins most often come from mint bagged and then sorted/rolled through Fed distribution. This is what most "OBW" rolls refer to.

First off,coins are transferred by a Ballistic Bag now a days that hold tons at a time. No longer are they put in $50 (cents) canvas bags. If I go to my bank and get a full box of 2017 cents,wrapped by let's say Brinks the coins in those rolls are not mint state?
John1

John1, those are true OBW rolls, 1) all same date 2) came from mint to distribution...hopefully w/o human handling.

If some of these "mint" 2017 cents become mixed with other date area returns, there is the "gray area" to dispute! I seriously doubt, although not impossible, OBW rolls of say 1999P's may be introduced by a large quantity into the Fed regional distribution. I know you, I, and others have come across nice BU type coins, myself sometimes quite a few in a bank box. I believe these to be from some deceased collector's relatives dumping rolls for the cash, personally witnessed this at a local bank{turned in) and at a coinstar where customer broke the rolls into the hopper(refused to sell to me, idiot!).

I close by suggesting that CRH be formally changed to "Circulated Roll Hunting", that more fits the description!

Aristarchus123, exactly. Once the OP was CRHing a roll purchased from the bank and opened it, voila!...in circulation. Can't really see why it is so HARD to understand, if a coin has been touched by human hands it is circulated. Which can be said for the coins I've removed from my OBW rolls if I were to put my nice MS66+ 1958D's back into the bank dump bag and return to be placed into circulation, you think I'd do that?

I consider circulation/circulated as a process and MS as a grade. Who else thinks this way?
John1

Okay, I get the reasoning behind calling a coin circulated if one found it in a roll -- if it's ever been outside of a mint-sealed container, you could say that. But as far as grading goes, the term uncirculated has to do with wear, not with its travels. I mean, how could any coin truly be considered properly graded as uncirculated if a person had to handle the coin to grade it? Are only special types of careful handling acceptable? It seems like an awfully thin line, if so.

Here is a screenshot I took with my phone from the PCGS Coin Facts app. I knew I'd seen reference to pulling MS coins from circulation somewhere in there. I'm sure there are more, but this was the first one I came across.