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Pillar of the Community
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Why isn't the clip the same shape as a coin?
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Valued Member
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I agree with aristarchus, because the clip is not the same size as part of a coin, which, if it were legitimate, it should be.
NVM I did not remember that the metal could change shape after being clipped.
Edited by WheatBackPenny
06/13/2017 4:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I disagree with the other posters, clipped planchets can come in all shapes and all sizes: http://www.error-ref.com/crescent-curve-clips/The blakesly effect is clearly visible and quite strong, however i'd like to see a low angle shot of the clip from both sides if you can get one, if it is in fact a genuine clip, there shouldnt be any metal flow up and around the edge of the clip. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The clip will not always maintain the curvature of a coin after the planchet is struck. There is nothing to control the flow of the planchet metal so it is not uncommon to see some distortion of the curvature. This coin has a very prominent Blakesley Effect, the rim is tapered, and metal flow is present on AM as you would expect to see on a genuine incomplete(clipped) planchet.
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Pillar of the Community
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100% legit clip, no question about it.
As Adam and Biokemist stated, the blakesley effect is very strong.
Very nice coin!
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I agree, looks legit to me and I especially trust the opinion of our two very knowledgeable members.
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Pillar of the Community
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 as well.. Lets not jump to conclusions guys and gals. The example clearly exhibits the blakesly and looks good. As for the tarnish, some sort of silver solution. Id say test out a few regular ones with similar toning that you got for melt or close to that way if it goes bad then you can break even. Then use the dip that works best. |
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In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice pictures, they clearly show the thin grainy line under the thicker smooth line, that's the breakaway zone, the part of the planchet that gets torn away as opposed to being cut. Definitely a genuine clip that got distorted from the strike  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for that explanation. I was wondering about that thinner "grainy" line on the clipped edge.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Thank you for the additional photos. They make this a great learning thread. By the way, if Coop asks to use them, you say yes.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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This is a true clip, not PMD, on OP's coin. A quick dip in a diluted water/dip solution might do the trick on the spots, but I value originality; YMMV. Here is an example of a small clip on a clad Roosie, a 1974 from my cabinet, cracked out of a yellow ANACS slab:   Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Valued Member
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According to the top picture from original poster....is the coin punched from left to right or vise-versa?
Edited by CaddoFarms
06/14/2017 10:33 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:
According to the top picture from original poster Are you referring to the very first pic or the top pic in the second set (closeups)? If the second set, I was curious also about where the "breakaway point" fits as far as blank orientation. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Top pic, second set. Macro lens.
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