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Bedrock of the Community
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I posted this with some other clips a while back but, I'm revisiting it with some questions. It weighs 2.2g so, by weight, I estimate it to be a 12% clip. My questions: What, if anything, can be done about the spots (tarnish?)? If the pics are good enough, what would you grade it and do you think it's FB (FSB)? What do you think of value?     Thanks!  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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Pillar of the Community
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MS70 works miracles on silver coins!
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I can tell due to the jagged edge of the clip that this is PMD with some sort of blade. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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@josephm99
What specifically makes you come to that conclusion? I don't see a "jagged edge."
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Edited by spru
06/13/2017 02:04 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've been looking at MS70 for a while and just bought some. I have at least one test subject that could benefit before I try it with this coin. It's always good to know the products and what they can and cannot do or what they will do that you don't want! In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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Pillar of the Community
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Why isn't the clip the same shape as a coin?
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Valued Member
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I agree with aristarchus, because the clip is not the same size as part of a coin, which, if it were legitimate, it should be.
NVM I did not remember that the metal could change shape after being clipped.
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06/13/2017 4:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I disagree with the other posters, clipped planchets can come in all shapes and all sizes: http://www.error-ref.com/crescent-curve-clips/The blakesly effect is clearly visible and quite strong, however i'd like to see a low angle shot of the clip from both sides if you can get one, if it is in fact a genuine clip, there shouldnt be any metal flow up and around the edge of the clip. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The clip will not always maintain the curvature of a coin after the planchet is struck. There is nothing to control the flow of the planchet metal so it is not uncommon to see some distortion of the curvature. This coin has a very prominent Blakesley Effect, the rim is tapered, and metal flow is present on AM as you would expect to see on a genuine incomplete(clipped) planchet.
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Pillar of the Community
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100% legit clip, no question about it.
As Adam and Biokemist stated, the blakesley effect is very strong.
Very nice coin!
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I agree, looks legit to me and I especially trust the opinion of our two very knowledgeable members.
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Pillar of the Community
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 as well.. Lets not jump to conclusions guys and gals. The example clearly exhibits the blakesly and looks good. As for the tarnish, some sort of silver solution. Id say test out a few regular ones with similar toning that you got for melt or close to that way if it goes bad then you can break even. Then use the dip that works best. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice pictures, they clearly show the thin grainy line under the thicker smooth line, that's the breakaway zone, the part of the planchet that gets torn away as opposed to being cut. Definitely a genuine clip that got distorted from the strike  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for that explanation. I was wondering about that thinner "grainy" line on the clipped edge.
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Thank you for the additional photos. They make this a great learning thread. By the way, if Coop asks to use them, you say yes. |
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Posted 06/13/2017 01:29 am
