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Bedrock of the Community
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That was funny wasn't it
Errers and Varietys.
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It's too obscure for me to definitively say for sure it is a die clash. If it is, it's just a kiss. Maybe better lighting/different lighting for a comparative?
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CoinMasters, It's hard to say whether or not it is a Clash, usually the lower outline of the Wing ends just below the Eye perimeter and usually there are sister clashes on the reverse as well.Perhaps Mike Diamond can chime in,he is a co-author on maddieclashes. Below is the overlay by Jason Cuvelier  Edited by Chase007
08/22/2017 11:32 am
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I think not just a kiss Redfin, It's pretty far in a recess in the die. The pics are about how it looks in hand.
Thanks for the overlay Chase. Looks like if it is a clash, it's rotated pretty good. As far as the reverse goes, it doesn't seem to be the reverse die that clashed.
Any opinions are appreciated.
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Looking at the overlay presented I find it impossible for a wing tip to get into Kennedy's head cavity. Just follow each wing tip around the coin and never does either one land in the cavity between his eye and ear. I can't think of a scenario how that could happen. (Although I guess in coin collection one should never say never!)
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08/22/2017 10:21 pm
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Yes you have a good point Mark, I no longer believe it's the tip. I do believe it's part of the wing though. I don't know what else it could be. I'm open to opinions.
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Looks like if it is a clash, it's rotated pretty good May be so  I am interested in seeing a close up of the back of the Neck image ( no glare if possible! I know these are tough shots to produce),it looks interesting enough to explore,looks like Clash as well, perhaps One more shot of reverse with no glare if you can.   |
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Okay Chase but it'll take me a while. I shoot my pics in 100 to 200 lots, this one will be the first of my next lot. Thanks.
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Not seeing a clash. No way is a clash going to get that deep into the recesses of the cheek/eye area without ALL of the rest of the design showing up in the fields.
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I respectfully disagree Conder. To me it definitely looks like part of the eagle's wing, the obverse die has been polished a lot, suffers from Die Deterioration, and was double struck. I'm not convinced the reverse die was the one that hit it. I will be posting more pics, maybe they'll tell us more. Thanks |
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If the fields had been polished enough to remove a clash that heavy the fields would be smooth and there would be thinning of the obv lettering, separation of the letters from the hair and other signs. I agree this die has undergone serious die wear and I believe that is what you are seeing the die wear and subsequent flowlines are resembling the wing feathers. All I am seeing on this coin is die wear.
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You make some strong points Conder. I have reconsidered, and I agree it's serious wear on the die. Thanks for your time and making me think more.
Thanks to everyone. Chase, thanks to you too, maybe some minor clash marks at the neck, but without the wing, it kills it for me.
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