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That's a heck of a symmetrical die chip. Mhmmm. OP might be onto something?
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A retained chip is an oxy moron. There is no such thing. You're joking right?
Thanks Redfin, I hope so.
Opinions welcome.
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08/22/2017 11:11 pm
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If it were a dropped device it would be incuse, this looks raised like like a die chip. I think it is just some extra material - have you tried to move it around with the infamous toothpick?
Cool find I like the strange ones like this.
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And where would this dropped device originate? It's not under in device, just out in the open. Heck of a chip if it is a chip.
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A dropped device (letter) could drop off the die in any location really. I have even seen one in the Head of the design (I think it was a quarter) Mike Diamond and posted it on one my 1925 LWC post. Edit: Sorry didn't answer your question properly, it happens when the planchet gets stuck inside the die and then falls (drops) out so to say on to the next coin during the next strike. (Hope I explained that properly). I will double check this info on error-ref to be sure. Well, I was close to explaining it http://www.error-ref.com/?s=dropped+letter"Definition: This error type occurs when compacted die fill ("grease") falls out of a recess in the die face and onto a planchet. The plug of hardened material is then struck into the planchet, leaving an incuse impression of whatever design element the plug had molded itself to. Letters ("dropped letters") and numbers ("dropped numbers") are the most common elements duplicated in this fashion. If the plug remains next to the same die it fell out of, and if it doesn't flip over, the dropped letter/number is oriented the same way as its normal raised counterpart. If, however, the filling falls against the opposite die or flips over, the impression is mirror-image. Most dropped fillings are normally-oriented." Edited by CoinCents
08/23/2017 12:35 am
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CCL, by that definition, a dropped letter as OP suggested would be innies, not outies like on his coin, therefore is not a dropped detail. It is either adhered foreign material or a VLDC (very large die chip  )! That must have been an interesting indent on the reverse die!  Edited by Crazyb0
08/23/2017 12:51 am
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Yes, I agree CrazyB - as I noted in my first reply it would be "incuse".
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Is it raised or incuse? John1  |
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@CCL- thank you for your explanation. However, I know what the error is. I've just never seen one in an area like that. I've always seen them around the top/bottom of devices/letters/designs. I've always though that they were raised like a die chip too. Am I wrong about that?
I think it is a die chip too BUT I want to give it the benefit of a doubt because die chips aren't 'usually' so uniform and pronounced as this.
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Yes, that's right, it would be incuse. I don't know what I was thinking, we don't see them too often. It's not a dropped device, it's raised on my coin. It sure is uniform, I agree it's adhered foreign material or an unusual chip. Thanks everyone.
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Some kind of die damage. A die gouge of some kind? John1 |
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Yes I think it must be. I think maybe some machinery with a rectangular protrusion because it's so deep on the die.
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08/23/2017 8:49 pm
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So it's either a foreign object adhered to the coin, or a chip/gouge. I finally found some pure Acetone. How long should I soak it? Do I need to flip it? Can I soak more than one coin at a time? Is it possible to soak it too long?  |
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Overnite in a closed glass container. Not necessary to flip unless want to make sure front is really clear...this is a science experiment, not coin resurrection! Acetone will air dry. Then use wood toothpick to see if you can dislodge or lift up.
From the image of the coin, try using dishsoap and water with a soft bristle brush (toothbrush) before acetone. There seems to be some grease that that will remove, and just water and brush may remove it if lightly attached. Coin ain't worth nothing anyway, this I wouldn't suggest on a valuable coin for sure!
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10/05/2017 10:07 pm
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Thanks Crazyb0, I'll overnite it.
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