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Slabs And Protecting Them

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 Posted 09/22/2017  01:33 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
Beefer,

Before I finished reading the first paragraph, something popped into my head:

Gorilla Glass

Then, I read the rest.

New market maybe? I agree that slabs are very susceptible to abrasion and scratches that detract from the coin inside. A "slab protector" may be viable solution. I know there are many options for "cut to size" plastic protectors and I think that would work very well and not damage anything.

I don't know of a way to cut glass screen protectors to fit.

As an example, I recently had to get a new phone. Because of available monthly payments, I decided to go big and got a phone that's nearly $800 retail. Even though it already has a Gorilla Glass 3 display, my first order of business was to buy a glass screen protector. Protecting my investment.

So, if you buy an $800 coin, then pay to get it graded/slabbed (fresh slab), why not have something replaceable to protect the slab surfaces. It doesn't have to be glass. Even the "old" plastic ones would help a lot in avoiding permanent scratches.

Interesting idea.

There are, as sel mentioned, binder pages that hold 9 slabs. That's good if you store them in a binder. But, it doesn't address other storage methods or handling outside of the protective page.
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 Posted 09/22/2017  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
I keep mine in the blue PCGS boxes and don't have any issues. Stacking them doesn't really cause any issues either, most get scratched being handled by an auction house or slopping around in dealer cases. There are little plastic baggies you can put over them if you wanted, but the boxes or just having them stacked I doubt you would ever do any damage to them yourself without dropping one.
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 Posted 09/22/2017  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
There are polishes out there that are good for removing fine scratches and rubs.
I use the three-system from Novus (heavy, fine and clean).
A slab has to be a bit on the nasty side for me not to be able to clean it up.

If an adhesive is involved (from gummed labels) DO NOT use stuff like acetone to remove it.
That will cause more problems; they tend to "melt" the plastic.
Even isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) will do that.
Use straight ol' elbow grease and a cloth to do that job.
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 Posted 09/22/2017  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
^ This. Novus Plastic Polish is amazing. It will take that cloudy stuff right off.

As far as protecting them, go to a card and comic store and get "penny sleeves", creatively named as they are 100 for $1. They are soft polyethylene and NGC holders slip snuggly into them. They are designed for Pokemon cards, but whatever.
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 Posted 09/22/2017  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
This has been a concern by some people for years. One of the common solutions that has been used for years has been polyethylene ball card sleeves. Slabs fit in them nicely, they are inert, cheap. and they do a pretty fair job of protecting the slab from scuffs and minor marks. Oops just saw that Andrew already mentioned them.
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 Posted 09/24/2017  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list
Well, I found my 2-pack of Toshiba tablet screen protectors, and tried it out. One word - BUBBLES! Some came out ok, but I think I'll get the baseball card sleeves. Is there a certain size to get, or will the standard 2-5/8" x 3-5/8" fit?
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 Posted 09/24/2017  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
Good suggestions! I actually recently bought some of those baseball card sleeves for raw coins before transitioning them to 2x2s. I didn't think about them fitting slabs.


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If an adhesive is involved (from gummed labels) DO NOT use stuff like acetone to remove it.
That will cause more problems; they tend to "melt" the plastic.
Even isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) will do that.
Use straight ol' elbow grease and a cloth to do that job.


Never use acetone to clean plastic. I have never had a problem with using isopropyl alcohol to remove gunk from different plastics but, I've never tried it on a slab.

Also, never use an ammonia-based cleaner (like Windex) on plastic!
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 Posted 10/26/2017  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ron6788 to your friends list

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There are polishes out there that are good for removing fine scratches and rubs. I use the three-system from Novus (heavy, fine and clean). A slab has to be a bit on the nasty side for me not to be able to clean it up.


Thanks for posting this info about the Novus polishes. I'm going to order some. Do you think there's any chance any chemical vapors might go inside the holder and cause damage to the coin?

I have multiple holders with scratch damage, some so bad you can't really see the coin too well. I'm pretty careful with my stuff but they came to me already like that. One time, I took some to a local shop and the man went in the back and said he put them on a buffing machine (maybe he just use Novus). Anyway, he charged me $43 to, more or less, clean 3 slabs. Pretty pricey, for sure. (He actually wanted to charge even more.)

Also, the idea that Novus mentions in their ad of getting rid of that haze on my headlight shields is what really sells me. That's so dingy to always be looking at, besides which, my old lights need all the help they can get.
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 Posted 10/26/2017  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list

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I have never had a problem with using isopropyl alcohol to remove gunk from different plastics but, I've never tried it on a slab.

Isopropyl alcohol is sneaky.
The stuff you buy at the drug store is 70%.
It's only strong enough to fog a slab IF it remains too long on a slab.
There's 95% stuff out there that will do damage quite quickly.
Best to just avoid using isopropyl alcohol, period.
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 Posted 10/27/2017  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
The best slab polish, in my experience and on the advice of a bunch of people I trust, is Meguiar's PlastX. Keep in mind, though, plastic compositions differ between TPG's and even slab generations.

These slabs don't pick up all this damage while they're in your possession. You're not juggling them three or four at a time, are you? The damage happens during commerce, when they're lugged from show to show and handled by a hundred prospective customers. Frankly, I don't see the allfired importance of protecting them with bulletproof enclosures while you own them, unless you're afraid of yourself.
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 Posted 10/27/2017  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list
I am afraid of myself quite frequently
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Thanks for posting this info about the Novus polishes. I'm going to order some. Do you think there's any chance any chemical vapors might go inside the holder and cause damage to the coin?

I have multiple holders with scratch damage, some so bad you can't really see the coin too well. I'm pretty careful with my stuff but they came to me already like that. One time, I took some to a local shop and the man went in the back and said he put them on a buffing machine (maybe he just use Novus). Anyway, he charged me $43 to, more or less, clean 3 slabs. Pretty pricey, for sure. (He actually wanted to charge even more.)

Also, the idea that Novus mentions in their ad of getting rid of that haze on my headlight shields is what really sells me. That's so dingy to always be looking at, besides which, my old lights need all the help they can get.


They have no organic vapors that I can detect. They have different levels of grit in what I think is an aqueous base. #3 is like toothpaste, #1 is close to water, #2 is in between. $43 for 3 slabs? Gee, I should setup at a show and clean slabs for $5 a piece.
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Speaking of slab polishing and being scared of yourself....

I managed to Dremel a pretty good gouge into a slab, with a felt wheel and polish:

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That's a thousand-dollar coin in the slab....
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 Posted 10/27/2017  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
At least you polished an area away from the coin!

I have a couple of slabs that could use some de-scuffing (one much more than the other/s) but I'm hesitant to try, even for the relatively minimal cost of Novus. They live in boxes in storage -- it's not like I want to look at them every day. But when I do pull them out, I can't really see them. "No scuffs, blame the camera", indeed.
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 Posted 10/27/2017  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
Yeah, Dremel is far too violent and can melt the plastic. Novus and elbow grease is all it takes.
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