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Ugly Or Beautiful? Trade Dollar

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 Posted 11/02/2017  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list
I agree with the acetone soak. There is more going on with this coin than just toning.
That said, I love dark-ish toning on big silver. I'd invite this lady to share my cluttered home in a soldier's heartbeat. She would find herself in familiar company and loved for enduring the vagaries of time so well.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mail187man to your friends list
What is going on with the rings around the stars? I don't think I've ever seen toning like this on a coin. Could this indicate a dip or soak?
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 Posted 11/02/2017  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list
I think it's really bad advice to recommend a "light" dip on this coin. I mean if we are an educational forum, how can we provide this recommendation? This coin is as original as you can probably get in this series and there's are a lot of collectors, like myself, that would pay a premium to get it just the way it is. I have looked at a lot of coins with this toning. I think there is some confusion on what people describe as "haze" and halo around the stars. I would bet that this haze is a blue toning and it's quite attractive in hand. I have no doubts that if this coin looked like it does in the image as it does in-hand (and is fairly graded) then it is a sure-fire CAC candidate. That's my thoughts before even knowing what it graded so I hope I'm not stepping out on a limb here . I'm basing it on the images and not an in hand examination.


Please don't misunderstand what I'm saying, we are all entitled to our opinion and if you don't like the toning of this coin or feel it is too dark for your tastes then that is fine. I'm not trying to change your opinion or perspective at all. But, if it's not for you, then best thing for the hobby would be to sell it or better yet not even acquire it in the first place BUT PLEASE DO NOT dip a coin that looks like this in an effort to lighten it up.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
The rings around the stars are from an old, old cleaning in which the protected areas were not touched. A dip or soak won't do that. I'd look for hairlines underneath the toning. It may not dip out well because of that.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list
The darker,deeper toning and color surrounding the devices on both sides mostly noticeable around the Stars,Date,Olive branch and the USOA and the difference OF the contrast in the field tells me that this coin has gone through some sort of a previous conservation I would be hesitant repeating the process again.
In my opinion ( since you've asked) the toning is way too dark for my taste in spite of being a fan of toned coins.
But what it boils down to is the beauty is in the Eye of the beholder, if it pleases you then own it.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Since there was only two choices, I went ugly which was my first impression, but it was like a 51/49 thing.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Personally, I'm not a fan.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
It's nicer than the one I (don't) have
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 Posted 11/02/2017  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I would prefer there to be a "middle of the road" poll choice. Wouldn't mind owning the coin at all, if the price is right, but it's a little dark for my usual preferences.
I agree.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mac1971 to your friends list
Love her,
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 Posted 11/02/2017  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover1899 to your friends list
I wouldn't call her beautiful, but she does have original skin.
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 Posted 11/02/2017  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list
Looks to be slightly (if at all ) circulated. I think she's beautiful as is.

Is it the photo or is something up with the left wing?
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 Posted 11/03/2017  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list

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It will be interesting to see what PCGS had to say about it.


PCGS graded it au-53 straight. I agree it's a CAC candidate and I didn't vote but if I did I would say beautiful is an understatement.

Thanks for playing everyone!
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 Posted 11/03/2017  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
Love it!
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