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Please Grade This KGV 10c (Obverse Only).............

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 Posted 01/19/2018  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list
Nice coin, however I personally would say EF45 tops.
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 Posted 01/19/2018  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
considering your hint that it's in your eyes over graded, I think this coin is in an AU-58 or MS-62 holder..although I see the reasoning behind why you think it's over graded, I believe the coin is closer to UNC than you think. although baggy, I see luster and not much if any actual wear. I think this coin is the perfect combination of bad toning, a not so sharp strike and bad pictures. my personal grade would be mid AU.
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 Posted 01/19/2018  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list
I see a lot of wear and disturbances in the fields. If NGC graded this a 45, I would say they
were very generous.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Looks like it may have been cleaned at one time, I'd give it a EF-40, details
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 Posted 01/20/2018  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Okay everyone, I hope you're sitting down.........

Wings sticker NGC graded MS64!!


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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list
It should be AU58 or MS60 IMO.

EF is way too harsh. There is mint bloom throughout the fields.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Yeh, there's mint bloom between all the scratches, off the shoulder that shows wear, and away from the crown that's also worn.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
When I first looked at the coin, it spoke AU 58 to me (although the rim would dictate other wise)...Photographing with a flash or direct lighting amplifies marks 10 fold vs the naked eye. Because of the noisy fields, ICCS would penalize this coin. Admittedly even as a very weakly struck coin, a miss by NGC but not as much as you think. The "wings" sticker makes this even more interesting...


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01/20/2018 1:36 pm
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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Hard to believe, especially with the beat-up fields.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
American graders put much less emphasis on fields than ICCS.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list
Sigh, american TPG continue to confuse Me.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Well, I see a few posters trying to justify an MS grade, saying there is some 'mint bloom'.

Now have a look at the reverse and tell me there isn't outright wear (crown and tops of leaves) and 'no' this is not a case of a weak strike.

Let's face it folks, NGC and Wings are way off on this one and it begs the question, what use is Wings anyways?

IMHO, an EF reverse..................


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01/20/2018 5:02 pm
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 Posted 01/20/2018  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list
I find that's usually the excuse giving by tpgs, but seriously this is clearly wear and not just a "weak strike". and another reason why I prefer ICCS and actually grading the coin myself before buying it.
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 Posted 01/21/2018  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
You don't have to go far....eBay has many weakly struck KGV ICCS graded dimes in MS...Here is an example I own. ICCS graded MS62. This coin has more wear at some key wear points and more importantly on the rim than the coin in the OP here.

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01/21/2018 11:40 am
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 Posted 01/21/2018  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list
Idk, neither of these coins seem MS to Me and appear to have circulation wear .
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