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Pillar of the Community
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That's very interesting info. I know little about these coins, and enjoyed the read--thanks!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I too have learned much.
As the quest continues to see if I do get my trip to Aruba for the turtle races.
I think the information/knowledge I have acquired has been more than worth to cost.
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Sorry, Now that I have done exam (and felt like I did quite well :) ), I can answer some of the other stuff here: we'll start with... Quote:
I see you are 'researching coins of the German Third Reich'. What exactly is that all about? Anything special ya looking for? I have a few German specimens minted in late 1930's and early 1940's.
Indeed I am. Upto my eyeballs in research material, books, scans, photo's, archive documents, etc, relating to German coinage from 1933 until about 1953. Looking as in depth as possible into the Reichsmark Currency under the Third Reich and what transpired after the war until it was replaced by the East and West Currency Reforms... As for what I'm looking for, generally I try and contain this within 'EVERYTHING'... :) There is a lot of information in the 260 odd pages I have (it was 372 pages until a BIT cull the other month - especially within the appendicies), but the era was somewhat turbulent, so there are still holes that I'm trying to fill. Not to mention, I'm looking at Proben too, so seeking as many images of those too... Now, when you say Specimen's, do you mean Proof's, Proben or 'Very Nice Examples'? I'm still specifically after as many pictures/scans of the Occupation Issues (45-48), Proben (33-48), Reichskreditkassen Issues (40-41) and errors/varieties... AND Finally, on the subject of the Monetary Laws of 1871, the Reichsgesetzblatt archive I have access to only goes back as far as 1919. I shall see if I can get earlier extracts some other way... KurtS: yeah, Pre-Third Reich is not really my area either; however I do find myself being drawn more and more to the Kaiserreich and Weimarer era's. Its definately interesting... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Zaggy,
Krause did respond to the e-mail request. They also do not have any listing of Hamburg minting any 20 Mark pieces.
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Pillar of the Community
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Well, looks like this thread has run its course.
Does anybody have a suggestion as how to proceed?
Should I submit the coin to a third party? Someone like Krause or a grading company like PCGS. Or is that a waste of dollars?
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PCGS I think would be a waste of money, since they seem to work off the Krause references. But you never know; they might have experts on staff who'd know who to ask about apparently unique, undocumented pieces. You could try asking them.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
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I'd look at places like https://www.franquinet.de ... While not a Grading Service or anything like that, Guy Franquinet is (as I understand) one of the better known and respected experts on Varianten, Proben and Errors... Shooting Guy an email could be worth your while; alternatively, you could also try Künker too (www.kuenker.de from memory). Basically Id start with any of the better known German Auction Houses and Proben experts... Its a German coin, go to the source! As for Krause; yet again I have emailed them nicely and yet again, they fail to respond! Sure I'm not a big customer; I only own 3 of the Catalogue's, but they just don't like me! wwhitmann, what email did you use to get them? Maybe I'm just trying the WRONG person! |
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The book by Weege (I don't have the ISBN and Full title on me The one issued in late 2005 has the title "Münzfälschungen"; the ISBN is 9783950162066. That first volume has about 300 pages (roughly A4 size) and costs almost €50. The new volume will have more than 500 pages but cost about €100 ... As far as I know, the first volume can also be purchased http://www.moneytrend.at/ as a PDF file which should be less expensive. On page 132 there is a footnote about private orders with years other than the "official" ones. Christian |
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Chrisild: Christian, thats the one mate! There is a PDF version? Hmmm, I wonder if anyone knows of anyone else who can provide me with a 'sample' copy? That would be quite cool to have page through that (even tho the Third Reich section is slim!) :) The new one sounds interesting, however I just dont have €100 to spend on it - that said, I did just spend €85 on books from Germany this week. Its an expensive habit! :)
wwhitmann: If I may, what was the email you managed to contact Krause on? The one's I have tried time and again get me nowhere! After the response you got, which seems quite excellent, I'm suspecting I'm contacting the wrong person at Krause/Numismaster...
Danke :)
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Zaggy,
I'm at work now and the address is at home - I'd ask my wife but that would be a painful experience to try to walk her through the procedure. I will get it tonight and send it to you.
As I remember I got it out of my Krause -
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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chrisild, THANX for the link. It looks like a great reference package!  But I am an idiot - Can't read German! I did see something about the Hamburg 20Mark. It seemed to reference the 1905-1912 date area. Can you translate? |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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The text about the 1905-1912 issues is the footnote that I mentioned before: http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...31171#253204"In den Jahren 1905-1912 wurden in Hamburg offiziell keine 20-Mark-Stücke vom Wappentyp geprägt, sondern mit dem Porträt von Wilhelm II. von Preussen (mt 132.142/3). Andere Jahreszahlen existieren, weil Privataufträge." That is, In the years 1905-1912 the Hamburg mint did not officially mint any 20 mark coins with the Hamburg crest, but Prussian coins with the portrait of Wilhelm II. Other years exist due to private orders. Guess that the "mt" number refers to an article in moneytrend magazine ... Christian Edited by chrisild
07/14/2008 06:52 am
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Valued Member
Australia
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Just a quick update, wwhitman; tried Krause AGAIN with the email address you gave me, over two weeks ago now... Yet again they have ignored me! I guess they don't like researchers! hahaha
As for your 20M; have you tried contacting any of the better known German expertise? Paproth, Franquinet, etc?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Zaggy, I don't remember how long it took for them to reply, but I think it was closer to a month. I do think they may be on vacation at this time. In their e-mail, he indicated that during the summer is when he takes trips to Europe (lucky him). I'm sure that they will respond!  As for the 20M - I think it was a private order as per ChrisLd link. Not sure what that means?  I will check out the names you have given. I am still hoping for that trip to Aruba to watch the turtle races!  |
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