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Possible 2005 Proof Lincoln Cent With No Frosting Or Mintmark?

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 Posted 03/24/2018  04:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list
Now I am thinking that rather than the 2005 showing hub doubling, it may be three different die markers/breaks (?). There is one covering the whole top of the 2, one at the top of the 2's bottom, and one in the middle of the 5, at the top. But the 2 is also showing a split serif on the bottom left corner, so I don't know what to make of that. But I am mostly interested in if this is a partial proof coin.
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 Posted 03/24/2018  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list
Here are some closer pictures of the rim. It has a depression line going through the center of it. I don't know if that is normal or not.
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 Posted 03/24/2018  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
It's just a really nice uncirculated cent.
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 Posted 03/24/2018  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyCoinBoy to your friends list

Not a proof, just a clean uncirculated.
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 Posted 03/24/2018  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Yep.



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 Posted 03/24/2018  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The proof cents have a lot mirror like fields. Frosted devices. Yours is just a business strike coin from Philadelphia.
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Your coin was hit on the reverse of the left cornice area by a wrapping machine that removed the plating. Just a spender. Not a proof coin.
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 Posted 03/24/2018  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list
Thanks for the responses! Hmm... But aren't the features I mentioned indicative of a proof coin? I can't understand why the rim would be so thick, uniformly thick, and raised. And why would the details be so sharp and "3D" like? I have uncirculated 2017 cents that look like trash in the details compared to this one. What does the "squared off" rim appearance on proofs look like? I guess I am mostly wondering how an older proof can be identified when it has been in circulation a long time (no mirror, frost, or mintmark).
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 Posted 03/24/2018  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ilikeabecoins to your friends list

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sharper details than new 2017 cents

I think they look like mush.

I found this CRH. It is an impaired proof with a cameo frosting (not perfect anymore due to circulation and the spot on the reverse).

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 Posted 03/24/2018  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I prefer the 1960-1964 proof cents. They look so fine.
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But the fields on your coin are anything like a proof cents fields. Some coins just look better, but they are not proof coins.
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 Posted 03/24/2018  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list
Ilikeabecoins, I did recently notice that 2017 cents look a lot worse than general cents from ten years ago. I wonder why? Something different happened, and it surely wasn't for the best. I like your impaired proof a lot! I found a 1982-S dime in some car change a while back, and it looks similar to yours, although the front finish on it is completely gone.

coop, Did you see the bit I wrote about the date? What do you think happened? Is it die chips, or is it hub doubling? If it's die chips, I find it odd that one is the exact same shape as the top of the 2. It's almost like it "followed" what was already there.
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 Posted 03/25/2018  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Actually on the date there are no notching present on the coin. The coin is normal. But you are using a two sets of light.
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Where the lights overlap, they cause that area to look like notches when it is really not the case. So even the rough plating showing the rolling lines are enhanced because of the lighting. Try shutting off one light and take a set of images. You will note a big change. Micro-photos are betters with just one light source causing light and shadows. When you use too much light, it removes that affect.
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Excessive light creates glare.
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While someone wants to show something, too much light makes too much glare.


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 Posted 03/25/2018  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ilikeabecoins to your friends list

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I like your impaired proof a lot!

Thanks shaney. I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw it.
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 Posted 03/26/2018  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list
As always, I really appreciate the help! I have about 10 other coins I am curious about, but I feel like I shouldn't post all that much, as it's mostly the same dedicated members answering. I don't want to get bothersome or annoying with a lot of posts, so I'll try to keep it centered on what I see to be more significant possibilities.
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 Posted 03/26/2018  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Sometimes an answer to one coin, will actually answer several of the issues you see on your other coins. My purpose in posting is to help train the new collector on what to look with the approach of telling what I see. That way that information can be remembered and used on further searching you do. So I seldom give yes or not answers, but tell what I'm seeing to help others to learn. If is just not you that benefits, hundreds of others look, read and learn as well. It is an interchange of information.
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 Posted 03/30/2018  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list
That makes sense!
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