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I do not buy the story (new user offering his first coin from an unconfirmed source, which he does not nothing about, but costs thousands of dollars if authentic).
Nice try :-)
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06/25/2018 4:18 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Welcome to the Forum.
@afewmorecents
What makes you say it's genuine?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"I do not buy the story (new user offering his first coin from an unconfirmed source, which he does not nothing about, but costs thousands of dollars if authentic).
Nice try :-)"
While I agree that stories such as this should be taken with a sense of skepticism, there have been plenty of times where they turned out to be legitimate.
Personally I didn't usually bother to read the story, I just look at the coin :)
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Personally I didn't usually bother to read the story, I just look at the coin :) Probably the best approach for an unbiased assessment. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Well, I saw the coin too, which is obviously not good.
I tried to give a hint for the less experienced collectors, who are being clearly targeted here.
The coin is just struck, not made in the 80s and not authentic at all.
Still, they did a good job on some of the details, these Chinese high-quality copies are popping up everywhere.
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06/26/2018 04:28 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm reasonably certain this coin is actually authentic. The overall look and subtle signs of how it was made matches other examples that were authenticated. Closely compare all around the tips of the dentils on the auto side with this one http://www.coinsnumismatics.com/201...ce-1928.html or this one https://www.chinesecoins.com/wp-con...-Reverse.jpg or any in auction archives or NGC website. The areas of flat roughness near the rim by incomplete dentils and the extra "dashes" of material between the tops of complete ones is routinely seen on genuine examples. The dull gray color is also a common trait. The circumstances behind how this type was struck means matching exact details alone isn't always reliable. However, matching the manufacturing process is a good indicator when combined with details. The OP coin also appears to have been struck from the same die as the authenticated one in the first link in my post. See the cracks going from top of right-most character above the auto to the rim. Edited by Numismat
06/26/2018 06:42 am
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First, thank you EVERYONE for your feedback. I'm sorry, I'm just here to get advice and input is all. My goal was to try and get feedback from people who are knowledgeable, so that I can try and narrow down what I ultimately send in to the NGC or PCGS since they seem to charge quite a bit. Basically weeding out the questionable items as well as figure out some other ones which is harder than I thought using the Internet. That was all.
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06/26/2018 07:19 am
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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@Numismat
You are obviously not aware of how good these Chinese copies have got.
Not good enough to be slabbed, but very good on the first sight.
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I've been closely studying high quality modern counterfeits ever since they first appeared all over ebay 5-6 years ago. That is the main reason why I am confident that the OP coin is not one of those. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Door edges barely evident (a groove should be showing), as well as trim line below windows, (should be raised on coin).
Tail light near roof line missing.
XRF test and ping tone test justified for this particular coin. The results of these tests obviously cannot be determined by visual inspection, but should be done.
Corroborative evidence needed.
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06/26/2018 09:03 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Scientific measurements like XRF are always helpful of course.
OP pictures aren't exactly ideal for showing faint details, but looks like the missing lines you mention sel are actually visible, just very faint. Weakness in that part of the design is not uncommon.
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06/26/2018 09:24 am
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United States
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@WannieA
Could you post some additional photos of both sides of the coin for more visual information? Have you tried any of the other tests that were mentioned?
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United States
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Here are some... This site makes me resize the images and the quality keeps decreasing :(. I'm thinking maybe I'll take it to a local dealer nearby, let them look and pick out the ones that are worth sending in for grading.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Good luck with the grading of that coin. You will need it!
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Bedrock of the Community
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