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US 1943 Series 1c Not Graded Because "Altered Surface"

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 Posted 07/02/2018  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
With all of the above . Where did you get that original bank roll of 1943 Cents ? And may I ask what you paid for it ? I think it was a circulated roll that you received and NGC shook their heads and just gave it '' Altered Surfaces ''
Or like said above , ''reprocessed'' .
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 Posted 07/02/2018  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
The first red flag....AFAIK, there is no OBW rolls of 1943's. At least, I have never seen a genuine one. They pop-up on ebay now and then but every single one I've seen is fake. I'd say you just got an expensive lesson.
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 Posted 07/02/2018  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
Can you post pics of a couple of them?
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 Posted 07/03/2018  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

Can't imagine why you would send in any 1943 Cents for grading. Even in MS-65 most worth far less than the grading cost.
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 Posted 07/03/2018  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
I would find it hard to believe that you would be able to secure an original bank wrapped (OBW) roll of 1943 steel cents. I haven't seen them offered in such condition for years. Were they all nice and shiny? This would indicate re-plating. Can you go back to the seller with the TPG information?

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 Posted 07/07/2018  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinking7389 to your friends list
All very good and worthy comments. From my limited experience they looked fine and came from a source that would not have been involed with any alteration. Whatever occured would have been done prior to the 1970 era when they were stored away. Photos attached.
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 Posted 07/07/2018  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
Yep those are replated and the center one is chewed up. Worth less than $1 apiece graded or otherwise
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 Posted 07/07/2018  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list
Definitely replated aka reprocessed.

I agree with machine20. they are worth less than $1 a piece.
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 Posted 07/07/2018  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
For sure. Keep looking!



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 Posted 07/10/2018  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Unfortunately, the supposed "OBW Roll" wasn't OBW. It has been clearly searched, and they've been replated. This hurts the value a lot, since it alters the coins surfaces. Did you buy this roll? If you did, then you got ripped off very badly.
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 Posted 07/10/2018  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list
Also, had this really been an original bank roll they would have likely been with the same mint mark, not mixed like your examples.
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No, fortunately I received the roll from my family. It was found in the attic in an old box of stuff. So that fact made me feel relatively confident they had not been touched in roughly 45 years. On my inspection they looked fine, so I must say that whatever process was used could easily fool an amateur.

The cost of my mistake is an educational investment. I appreciate all of the advice; thank you all.
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Good discussion, best of luck, and show us anything else you might have!
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Well, I'm glad that these were received from your family, and not bought from a dealer. Good luck and I hope you continue to post in the future on CCF.
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