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How To Tell If A Coin Is Real Gold Or Silver?

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 Posted 07/05/2008  12:07 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
Easiest is to start a new topic per coin in it's respective forum. If you wanna combine a few that's alright too.

Out of 10,000+ known countries/nation states/commonwealths/principalities/ and various other entities....I'm sure there are a few that never had any silver
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 Posted 07/05/2008  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list
ok well that should keep me busy for the next month or so. lol thats probably a good thing.
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 Posted 07/05/2008  12:26 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list

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keep me busy for the next month or so


Me too...bring em on
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 Posted 07/05/2008  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list
GO, just noticed you are now the Coolest Moderator, are the rest all coin nerds?
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 Posted 07/05/2008  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
Post them up, I could use all the I can get.
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Easiest is to start a new topic per coin in it's respective forum. If you wanna combine a few that's alright too.
I'll second that and add that
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 Posted 07/05/2008  01:13 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
Sometimes we have the most fun trying to beat each other to the answer

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 Posted 07/05/2008  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list
lol ok ok. I'm working on it. just trying to decide which ones cause theres a LOT!
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Here's the first couple coins for you to try out

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OK well none of em are gold....sorry

1&2 - Syria, 5 Paistres from 1960
3&4 - France, 25 Centimes from 1920
5&6 - Thailand, 50 Satang from 1957
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ok I'm going to leave this post topic right where it is and start another one for silver. I guess in this forum since it says non country specific.
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Start it HERE if it's world coins

Now if you don't know what a coin is then Please post it HERE in the ID Forum
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 Posted 07/05/2008  02:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
I think a good way to go about any coin that's an unknown is first do a catalog lookup (like Krause).
Then, if the catalog says it should be gold, weight your coin and compare to the weight given.
Plated or otherwise "fake" gold coins will be considerably lighter, since few metals can approach the density of gold.
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oops so sorry but I dont think thats where I posted. I didnt notice that you had written back to me.
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Yes, gold and silver won't stick to a magnet. But then, neither will most metals. Iron, cobalt and nickel are the only metals normally attracted to a magnet, and even many alloys containing these elements aren't magnetic. Cupronickel, the alloy used to make US "nickels", is 25% nickel; it looks "silvery" and doesn't fly to a magnet. A magnet doesn't really tell you much about whether or not a "gold" or "silver" coin is really made of precious metal. There are some other tests that can be done, depending on how much trouble you want to go through.

Test Kits
You can buy "test kits" which use a chemical reaction with a small scraping of metal from the coin to determine whether it's pure gold or silver. This test is basically a variation of the ancient method of using a touchstone. Please note that word "scraping"; this technique will do a small amount of physical damage to the coin, and is not recommended for collectable coins.

Weight
If you have an identified coin and know what the coin is supposed to weigh (reference to a coin catalogue will normally tell you this) all you need to do is weigh it and see if the weight matches. A matching weight isn't necessarily proof of genuineness, but a wrong weight (way too high or way too low) is convincing proof that it's fake. All you need for this is access to a balance accurate in grams to at least 2 decimal places.

Density (Specific Gravity)
Gold is a very dense metal - meaning it's very heavy, compared to other metals. A 1 centimetre cube of gold will weigh 19.28 grams; compare this with lead (11.34 g/cm³), silver (10.50 g/cm³), copper (8.96 g/cm³), iron (7.87 g/cm³) and tin (7.29 g/cm³).

The only metals which are as dense or denser than gold are either rare metals which are even more valuable than gold is (such as platinum) or artificial, radioactive elements (like plutonium). This means that a "fake" gold coin would most likely be made of something considerably less dense than gold.

To measure density, you need a specific gravity rig on a balance that can weigh to an accuracy of at least 1/100th of a gram.

If a "gold" coin passes the SG test, you can be confident that it really is gold. Silver is harder to be confident about by SG, since it's possible to take cheap, denser metals and alloy them with cheap, less dense metals. For example, an alloy of lead and tin is apparently favoured by the Chinese fakemasters for their lower-quality fakes.

Bring out the Heavy Gear
X-Ray Fluorescence Spectroscopy (normally abbreviated XRF) is a quick, non-destructive test that can accurately determine the precise composition of an object. Unfortunately, the XRF Spectrometer you need to do this test isn't exactly something you can buy off the shelf. They're normally big, bulky things like the one in the Wikipedia article, though I see that they've got some nifty little handheld XRF guns nowadays, which are as close as you'll get today to owning a Star Trek tricorder.

Either way, they're expensive to buy, but your local university or analytical laboratory might have one they'd make available to the public... for a fee. The university where I work has only got one XRF, in the archaeology department... but they don't like letting outsiders use it.
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