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Morgan Dollar 1879-O

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 Posted 09/05/2018  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Villa Rose to your friends list
SilverDollar2017: You can tell the difference between photos and scans? How?
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 Posted 09/05/2018  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list
lacks eye appeal for me...may well be UNC details, or genuine...altered surfaces. hard one to judge
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 Posted 09/05/2018  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list

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You can tell the difference between photos and scans? How?


Dull surfaces and light direction are first and foremost tell tales of scanned images. The obverse was dipped and intentionally re-toned. Unfortunately, TPG's will likely QC it.
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 Posted 09/05/2018  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Villa Rose to your friends list
Dave700x: sorry to be dense (or just less experienced).... but what does QC stand for?
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 Posted 09/05/2018  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Questionable color.
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 Posted 09/06/2018  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
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 Posted 09/07/2018  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Villa Rose to your friends list

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Photos, not scans, are needed.

Here are actual photos (not scans), with two different angles per side. Do these change anyone's opinion? In due course I'll reveal what the dealer's grade and comments were.
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 Posted 09/07/2018  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I'll stand by my original evaluation:

AU with questionable toning and that the dealer's description was something like "High Grade Unc w/Gorgeous Toning!"
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 Posted 09/07/2018  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I agree, AU and likely a details coin. Color doesn't look natural.
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 Posted 09/09/2018  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Villa Rose to your friends list
The dealer rated it coin AU+; no reference to toning. I bought it at a coin show and took what I thought was a good look at it before deciding.

It looked like AU+ to me. I paid a premium over the Red Book price for AU50 because I liked the toning on the obverse. But when I got it home, the toning looked different to me; definitely not as attractive, and sort of artificial, as someone pointed out. Different lighting? Maybe.

Also, I noticed some light spots on the top left hand side of the obverse that I hadn't seen previously.

Based on all of the above, I have nicknamed this coin "Buyer's Remorse."
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 Posted 09/09/2018  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Sorry for the delay in getting back to this thread.

I wouldn't use the Red Book for prices...they are pretty inaccurate. My recommendation is to go off of Numismedia and ebay sold prices.

Looks like questionable toning to me, I'd grade it AU-53 Details, artificial toning.
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 Posted 09/10/2018  06:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Villa Rose to your friends list

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My recommendation is to go off of Numismedia and ebay sold prices.

Thanks, I'll do that.
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 Posted 09/13/2018  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Villa Rose to your friends list
Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond.
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 Posted 09/13/2018  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
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Toning may be natural, if that is the pull-away effect that I'm seeing (hard to tell for sure, I'm having a hard time enlarging the images on my cellphone).

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 Posted 09/14/2018  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
It's not pull away toning in my opinion. Look at the forth right star as a good example. Authentic pull away toning is uniform to the feature regardless of the size of the pull, the op coin is very random in relationship to the features.
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