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we can only grade by the photos we see which can sometimes be deceiving. lighting, angle and sharpness all come into play to cast shadows and hide devices. based on these photos I think its a solid MS63.
A coin can be slightly circulated and still be an Mint State (MS) coin. I have always stated that I think the graded systems should completely eliminate the alpha grades VF, XF, AU etc. and strictly just grade numerical based on where it falls on the 01-70 scale as all coins regardless with wear are a just representation of a perfect coin. So an F12 coin would just be MS12, an AU58 coin would be MS58. no more uncirculated or BU or Gem or none of those adjectives.
I think the reason these are still used is a throwback to early grading days and dealers dont want to have to grade using the new system as it takes a while to assess every single coin and assign a numerical grade that we use today. just my opinion
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09/19/2018 6:10 pm
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Across the top of UNIT(ed), is that a die break or just a scratch? Small one on the top (back side) also. (1st pic) Does that add/subtract from grading/value? That is a die crack. It definitely does not decrease the grade/value, in fact some collectors especially like coins with die breaks. |
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This is actually one of my culls, Better look up the meaning of "cull". Looks like an easy MS63 to me. |
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Looks pretty descent Morgan to me.
I would say MS63. I don't see a rub from the pictures.
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Could go 63. Nice coin. Great find. Looking forward to that 95-O!
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Thanks again ya'll! I find the die crack very interesting, gives it nice personality. I will have to see if any of the others have those. I see I have a lot to learn. First is to figure out how to get better pics with this S7 cell phone/camera. I've looked at some of the microscopes suggested through-out the many posts, might look for a low power one to connect to the laptop. I guess calling it my cull is the wrong term to use. I will refrain and start calling them my extras.
Do alot of coins have those cracks? I may have to start up an album of cracks(like I need another hobby). Think my wife would appreciate it if I told her I was becoming a crack hunter? LOL, sorry, bad joke.
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bandsdean, I will post a few coins first, learn to do it right, get good pics. I don't want to do the 95 injustice with bad pics. Right now it's my prized possession coin wise.
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Cool, more info to confuse this old phart. If this coin is a 63, with the die cracks, and the VAM 6, what would be the value of this coin? The Blue Book says it's at 42, what is true value if I sell it with these marks? |
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VAM-6 is a common variety adding no additional value other than the neat factor. A good place to check retail value is ebay sold auctions for raw 1896 Morgans. edit to add - and pardon my manners,  to CCF...  Edited by dave700x
09/20/2018 1:54 pm
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Looking at the photo, I'm curious. Across the top of UNIT(ed), is that a die break or just a scratch? It can sometimes be hard to tell this from a photo, but it's usually easy to tell with the coin in hand. Scratches dig into the coin and create a "valley". Die breaks let metal flow where it shouldn't have during the striking process and create raised features on the coin. |
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Slowly learning. Tried another coin, on a printer white sheet. Did it in a dark(er) room with only a full spectrum light and every picture came out a yellow... did not take long to delete those pics. It is stormy outside so not much light. What would be a better light?
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LEDs, Incandescentflorescents go yellow/orange
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09/20/2018 4:50 pm
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