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Pillar of the Community
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Agreed with Bob, it's always fun to own a coin about which one can brag, "it's the only one known!"
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Congrats on the addition. I'm curious what makes it unique also?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Apparently it's a secret
Shhhhhh !
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Pillar of the Community
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I have been swamped at work the last few days and have not had a chance to respond. I do not know what makes it unique as I am not an expert on coins of Probus. However, P Gysen (the person from whose collection this coin comes) is an expert and declared this con unique. Having looked at a number of similar coins with similar legends my guess would be the combination of "XXI" in the emerge and the devices on the reverse. The cuirassed bust on the obverse is scarce but is known on other coins of Probus with the legend "Clementia Temp".
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Pillar of the Community
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I honestly don't see anything different about it Perhaps Mssr Gysen was ......... getting a bit patinated himself ? IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG Radiate draped bust right CLEMENTIA TEMP Q in field XXI in exergue Emperor holding rotisserie chicken receiving cabbage from Zeus  Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
10/04/2018 5:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This site seems to have the most up to date info on the coinage of Probus. https://probvs.net/probvs/. Gysen is recognized there as an authority. It may be that the coin is a very rare but minor variant. For example, at the link above, there is a bust variant of RIC 905 which is virtually identical to orfew's and rvfvs' coins, differing only in style. Interesting thread. Edited by Kushanshah
10/04/2018 5:40 pm
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Nice coin Orfew from a great collection... I'm interested to see the outcome, if any, of the uniqueness of the op coin. FVRIVS RVFVS I think your photo and description doesn't tally with RIC 644 as this has the emperor holding a short sceptre? Great link KS very informative thanks....  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It is cuirassed, seen from reverse, without drapes. That's what makes it unique. A scarcer bust variant. A bit like mine from a different officina.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Many thanks Martin. I hoped you would chime in and offer your opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
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Sort of like this ?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2100 Posts |
That one is Antioch. Draped and curassed. Not just curassed. The coins above are Cyzicus.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was referencing the draped cuirass and not the mint .........
I really don't see a plain cuirass
In fact I see what looks like a round broach that would be a part of drapery
To me it appears a standard draped cuirassed bust
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Pillar of the Community
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Do you concur that mine is plain cuirassed? Regardless of whether you concur, my coin was confirmed by Dr. S. Estiot as one of the 5 known examples of the cuirasssed variety. I have not seen orfew's coin in hand but knew that on existed from my discussions with Dr. Estiot and that it sat in a private collection. I assume that this is that coins, whoch would make sense. If it were draped then it would be quie common.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes yours is quite clearly cuirassed
It may simply be the degraded condition and 'poor' photo that makes it difficult for me to see
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I have heard from another Probus collector regarding my coin. This individual responded to my post on Forum Ancient Coins.
"The coin indeed remains - at least to this day and to my knowledge - unique but not only becuase of its bust type but because of the combination of bust type and officina "Q"."
"Your new (ex Gysen) specimen is however the only specimen known (so far) with this (rare) bust from officina "Q""
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