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Is Shipping Outside The US Much Of A Bother? Worth The Wider Bid Net?

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 Posted 11/06/2018  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
If you print your own postage, the first class international package rate (starting around $13) includes E-DELCON delivery confirmation to 42 countries and satisfies PayPal seller protection requirements for shipments under $750. You can also request free USPS pickup. The E-DELCON service is not available at the post-office counter.





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 Posted 11/06/2018  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list

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The rock bottom rate for international first class is $13.50


To clarify my earlier comment, I have shipped lower value coins overseas in a first class envelope. The current postage cost is $1.15 for up to one ounce. I would slap on an additional 15 cents to cover the ebay and paypal fees, and charged $1.30. Used to be you could just use an automated kiosk if your Post Office has them, to generate the postage. Or go to a clerk and get lots of questions about what's in the envelope

When I shipped larger coins that might be detected, I would sandwich them between thin cardboard, which required a bit more postage.

To customers in some of the countries I shipped to, this was probably comparable to what they would pay for a shipment originating in their own country.

This model worked fine for what I was selling. And some of the countries I saw on your list were countries I sold to overseas buyers (Caribbean, African and S.E. Asian countries)

Kawliga, I am curious what you think will be the range of typical selling prices for your items?





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 Posted 11/06/2018  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list
For shipping low value coins I find stiff card CD/DVD mailers ideal. They attract very little attention. I ship world wide from the UK and countries outside the EU must carry a Customs Declaration with weight, value and description. I always described my items as Numismatica and fill the label out by hand, in cursive. Worked well for me so far.
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 Posted 11/06/2018  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kawliga to your friends list
Kushanshah, that deal sounds pretty good. I do print my own labels for fish shipments, and I use the free pickup service. But my question would be, is there a way to limit bidders to only citizens of those 42 countries? I know on Aquabid (the fish auction site), I can choose US only, Continental US only, North America only, or International (anywhere, essentially). But that only posts as a line item in the ad, doesn't actually stop people in other countries from bidding. Only once have I had a foreign auction winner (France) and so I had to sell the fish to the next highest bidder, but I know other people to whom it's happened lots of times.
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is there a way to limit bidders to only citizens of those 42 countries?


When you create your ebay listing, you go all the way to the bottom, and almost the last option you can choose is called "create exclusion list" for countries you will, or will not ship to.

Again, having a more specific idea of what you have to sell can improve the targeting of the advice here:
- If the modern coins you have are post WWII (which seems to be a good chunk of your country list) and circulated, don't bother with the international angle.
- If they are post WWII and uncirculated or proofs, then maybe yes, and posters here could probably advise you.
- Even for coins between 1874 (which you mention as your earliest) and WWII, higher grade coins may have an international market, but lower grades will not unless they are rare types/dates.



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 Posted 11/06/2018  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
@Kawliga On ebay, you can edit your shipping locations to include or exclude any country. Those to whom you don't ship, can't bid. I can't speak for other sites.

Funny thing. I've never had a claim of non-receipt on a package with E-DELCON. Go figure.
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 Posted 11/06/2018  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kawliga to your friends list
tzemiea Well I have mostly post-WW2 coins, yes. As for rare, the rules seem to be totally different for foreign coins than American. I have this and that foreign coin that I see was minted in single-digit millions.....I look up sold listings and see that it still only sells for a few bucks, whereas if it were a US wheatie or something it would be way valuable.
So anyway, I sure appreciate all you guys have said. Even though international shipping is apparently feasible, it would seem to involve considerable extra work, which would likely not be justifiable given how little money I will probably be getting. So I will stick to the home of the free and the brave, at least for a while.
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 Posted 11/06/2018  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Off topic, I know, but I didn't know that there were many other aquarists other than me on the CCF. Glad to see another fishkeeper here
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 Posted 11/06/2018  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Good luck, and keep us posted on how things work out. If you try auctions and are disappointed with your results, you can also try BIN listings. You will usually get a higher price, but it takes longer (at least for single coins. I don't sell many lots and can't comment on those).

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 Posted 11/27/2018  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mlov to your friends list
I recently shipped something to S. Korea. The cheapest way was Registered Airmail at $32.00
The person in Korea with whom I was trading sent something to me at the same weight, untracked, at $7.00 from South Korea. We shipped our items to each other on the same day.
His package came to me 10 days(!) earlier than the one I sent him.

My experience is, US Postal rates are high, and less secure (necessitating the need to register).
S. Korean shipping is cheaper and MORE secure. I don't know why.
People want to blame the foreign countries for stolen packages, however, I remember in the late 1990s when many of my packages to S. Korea went missing (about HALF), I read an article about baggage handlers at US airports stealing unregistered airmail (organized crime activity). After the sting operation that took them down, my packages to S. Korea started arriving with no problems. It was after that time that I switched to Registed Mail. I haven't lost a Registered package yet.

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 Posted 11/27/2018  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Jack to your friends list
Personally I would only focus on Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Japan, Great Britain, Iceland, France, Germany, Spain, and Austria. Do not Ship to Africa, or the Middle East, Russia, China, Italy, India, Mexico, South America, etc.
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 Posted 11/28/2018  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EconBrony to your friends list
I have had a lot of luck shipping to and from Canada, China, Japan, and Germany. Whenever a package was lost, it was normally lost by the US Post office. The track number would show it was received in the US and then nothing after that or it would never show leaving my State. I have shipped quite a bit to and from the UK, but they are veeeerrrrry slow. I have yet to have a package arrive in its promised time period. I have only shipped three things to France and I will never ship anything else there again. All three packages were reported lose. Honestly, when it comes to international shipping, it feels like a lot of luck. Do remember though, as mlov pointed out, the US Post Office is not very good.
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 Posted 12/03/2018  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kawliga to your friends list
I TOTALLY believe yall when you say the USPS is more often the culprit. I have had my share of nightmares with them over the years, learned some very disturbing things from former employees too. Just like cops or any other position with power over powerless poeple and their property, when animals get hired they pretty much be animals without impunity. Lazily throwing packages is on the nicer end of what can happen because there are also sadists. --I once had a desk clerk lazily AND sadistically throw a box of live fish I brought in to ship, with her looking right in my eyes (she wanted to illustrate that I shouldn't ship live fish, because 'this' is how the box will be treated). I've also gathered that they HATE anything handwritten begging them to use 'CAUTION' 'THIS SIDE UP' etc. I've had customers try to dictate that I write such things on fish purchase boxes so I say "Fine if you want to void your live arrival guarantee" (that shuts them up). I've had a box of fish circle around Missouri for 15 days, then come back to me (3 of them were still alive!). But never had a package just disappear completely. --This is the first I've heard of postal workers STEALING, but if it's little envelopes I could totally see it.
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 Posted 12/03/2018  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
I'm not so interested in slamming the Post Office because I know for sure that ebay buyers also lie about receiving their items.
Earlier this year, I sold several coins to a U.S. buyer in separate transactions over a day or two. I shipped the coins together in a single package, and was more than a little surprised when the buyer filed an "item not received" on only one of the coins.

I am more interested in how your selling on ebay is working out?
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 Posted 12/15/2018  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list
I am interested in hearing about your experience as well Kawliga. I'm going to be doing a lot of the same once I can get past this period of listing only 10 items per month that ebay imposes on new sellers.
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