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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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If you wish to consider 50 years experience 'clueless' be my guest. It is true the bird's foot flaw does appear on pennies other than 1918KN, but to suggest if yours is not a KN then it has to be a bird's foot is nonsense. The flaw is quite scarce, but for your statement to be correct all non KN 1918 pennies would have to include it. This would mean tens of millions of pennies of that date and with the flaw, which would make the flaw standard for the issue and not scarce at all. All the coins of which you have uploaded photos are common, in poor condition, and have zero value.
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New Member
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You got me wrong.I did not suggest that.I showed you 1918 penny,you might not see bird`s foot on it cause it is scan.It is true.I will suprise your 50years of experience cause there is penny 1919 with much larger big foot on it,I have it
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Then I suggest it might be a good idea to find someone to help write your posts as, at present, they are rather confusing. To quote you "If there is no mint marks to the left of date,there is bird`s foot instead:" The meaning of what you have said there is; any 1918 penny which does not have the KN mintmark will have the bird's foot flaw.
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New Member
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Uou catch my words buddy,I do not speak by the book like you.Use imagination.Tell me your opinion as proffesional collector,is there penny 1919 bird`s foot?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I began my first reply by suggesting it isn't. However, if you can take a clearer photo, crop out all the unnecessary white background, have the coin showing larger and the correct way up, we will better be able to make a definitive judgement for you.
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New Member
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If you are 50 yo experienced coin collector and you never heard of it,this means hole world might be suprised.You people are missing coins cause my grandma had them all including 1933 penny
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New Member
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I am going to buy better scanner wright now I`ll show you today
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
735 Posts |
Please show where I said I'd never heard of it. Your posts are becoming more and more confusing. And as for your Gran having owned a 1933 penny, well now you're just making yourself look silly.
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New Member
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Who id silly now  
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
1351 Posts |
Oh dear....I'm outa here 
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United Kingdom
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New Member
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Peter save your head if u don`t see four scratches in the right corner of neck what do u do here this is not bird`s foot you know
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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pawcio....put your JCB away and lock away the keys....the hole you are digging is big enough.Read up on the suggested books and by all means ask questions.Think them through 1st and you will get reasoned answers.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I agree with Hogarth. There is no birds foot on your 1919 penny.
The only reference I have to this flaw is Peck, page 504. He only lists the flaw against 1918KN pennies, saying that "some" of them have the flaw. My copy is a 1970 reprint of the 1960 original. I accept that nearly 50 years have passed since it was printed and new information could well have come to light, but neither Freeman (1985) nor Groom (2009) make mention of it.
Groom mentions two varieties of the KN mintmark, one wide spaced and one narrow. It would be interesting to know if the birdfoot flaw only occurs with one.
Pawcio, your submissions are hard to follow sometimes. I second the idea that you get somebody to proof read what you are saying.
If you want further suggestions to help you studying this topic try these books -
1. The Identification of British 20th Century Bronze Coin Varieties David J Groom published 2009 ISBN 978-1-4092-8550-2
It is only a small paperback but don't let that fool you. It is crammed with useful information and includes some excellent pictures. Detailed enough for collectors at any level.
Groom wrote a similar book for silver, which is also very worthwhile.
2. The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain Michael J Freeman published by Barrie and Jenkins 1970, with various reprints
3. English Copper, Tin and Bronze Coins in the British Museum 1558 - 1958 C Wilson Peck published by the British Museum 1960 reprinted 1970
A massive book with a massive price, but absolutely awesome.
Hope these help you on your numismatic journey.
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Agreed A.
Edited by Hogarth 01/10/2019 5:57 pm
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