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Sm Date Vs Lg Date

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 Posted 08/20/2008  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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If you have access to a chem lab that Sulfuric Acid will melt the Copper coins completely and you will end up with Copper Sulfate and left to evaporate will give you a fantastic parallelogramic deep blue, simi clear crystal. However, I think that is against the law.

No, the law specifies melting the cents, not dissolving them. Yes it is splitting hairs.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrus to your friends list
If they didn't want laws to be broken they should make them less specific. You ever notice that, All our laws are like code 142.23. Why not simplfy?
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 Posted 08/20/2008  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mklpatrick to your friends list
I can spot the large vs. small pretty easily now after a while practicing at it! I just look at the "2"...if it looks like a "Z" then it's a large date, but if it has the graceful curve heading towards the base, it's a small date.

Now...if only I can spot the doubled ear lobe and beard on the 2006's...
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 Posted 08/20/2008  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Determining Small Date v. Large Date...

1982-P&D? Easy!
1960-P&D? A little effort, but not really that difficult!
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 Posted 08/20/2008  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list

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Hehe...no kidding, but it all came into focus for me when I found my first SD just 6 months ago. When I saw it, I just knew right away.
Like Chuck once said, the difference is quite dramatic when you have a LD and SD side-by-side. I'm still amazed how a member here found one in circulation!
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OK, I found a 70-S in a roll just yesterday and I stared at it with my loupe until my noggin' was achin'. From what I can tell, it is a large date, and the way I see it is that the end of the little loop inside the "9" is pointing down toward the mint mark. If the end had bent a little more and pointed instead at the "7" then it would probably be a small date. Right? No? Yes? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Something "D-O-O" economics...
Sorry, got carried away there.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
mklpatrick-
Here's a good page on the SD/LD differences
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Good one, Kurt. Thanks as always.
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Like Chuck once said, the difference is quite dramatic when you have a LD and SD side-by-side.
Looking at the pictures of them together I can tell very easily. But every time someone posts an "is this a small date?" picture, it takes me a few minutes to be sure; and that is assuming it is a good photo.
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Anyone know how to determine Lg date Sm date on 1840 LG Cent?
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Anyone know how to determine Lg date Sm date on 1840 LG Cent?
This is out of my league. I find nothing in the 1840 Large Cent page, other than featured auctions mentioning Large Date.
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 Posted 08/21/2008  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
Me too...I haven't a clue. However, popping over to Heritage, I see large dates and small dates listed for that year. I just don't know how to tell the difference.
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Determining Small Date v. Large Date...

1982-P&D? Easy!
1960-P&D? A little effort, but not really that difficult!
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There are no spaces for any 1974 varieties in my Dansco, so they must not exist!
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Anyone know how to determine Lg date Sm date on 1840 LG Cent?

Not too hard to tell, there is a significant difference in the size of the digits. The large dates were made with a two two digit logotypes with the digits uneven. The point of the 1 is fairly blunt.
The small dates were made with a four digit logotype and all of the numbers are evenly spaced and on the same line. The 1 has a long point.
The small dates are N-1,3,4, and 12.
Large dates are N-5,6,7,8,9, and 10
N-2 is unusual as it has the small date punched in over the large date 18 logotype.

Small date N-1
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Large date Sorry I don't have a better picture, don't know the variety
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Small date over large 18 N-2 You can clearly see the point of both 1's.
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