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Future Of The Dollar

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 Posted 09/15/2008  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
I wouldn't be at all surprised if we end up with a cashless society like just carl suggests, & think that is inevitable over time.

I seriously doubt the US Dollar will stop being a viable currency at any time in the immediate future. If the US dollar collapsed you might as well crawl into a hole & pull the dirt in after you. At that point steel & lead(guns & bullets) will be more valuable than silver or gold.
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 Posted 09/17/2008  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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If we go to a cashless society, I suppose coin prices would rise, or am I mistaken?

Most US collectors collect Lincolns. Why? Because everyone has a pocketful of them.

Certainly people collect 20¢ pieces, but I've never heard of anyone starting their collection with them.

If we have a cashless society, where's the seed to get people started collecting coins?
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 Posted 09/18/2008  02:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
I have a feeling that rather than immediately switching to a purely electronic format there would have to be something like ta RentenDollar or something of the like just to stabilize the economy.
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 Posted 09/18/2008  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I do not think we will just suddenly switch to an all electronic format. I think that it is something that will happen over time. Everyday, every week, I am using cash less and less; and I pay all of my bills electronically. I am sure I am not alone.
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 Posted 09/19/2008  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MLFLY to your friends list
JustCarl and Trdhrdr007 - what if that scenario becomes true (I agree, BTW) and the government recalls and melts all coins? Hmmmm. I wonder if we'll put a couple away?
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 Posted 09/19/2008  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Can the government legally recall coins? Are we just renting the coins from them or something?
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 Posted 09/19/2008  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
No, they cannot legally. Coins are sold to the Federal Reserve, the Fed sells them to the banks, the banks sell them to the people. Coins are property, which ownership of is given to us by our Natural Rights and is protected by the Constitution.

However, when has this stopped them before?
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 Posted 09/19/2008  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncollector to your friends list
Coins go straight from the mint to the Fed to the banks to us.

Who tells the mint how many coins to mint?

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 Posted 09/19/2008  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
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 Posted 09/19/2008  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
AFAIK, that is correct. Mintage is based on what the Fed orders.
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 Posted 09/20/2008  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list
And,why is the fed minting these new Dollar Coins?With the value of the dollar today,who is going to carry around a bunch of dollar coins in their pocket?!A dollar doesn't buy much these days...They should be minting $5 coins instead.....Just my thoughts...
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 Posted 09/20/2008  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
I think minting the dollar coins is done for one of the same reasons as the State Quarter series. It's a profit center. Think about it this way, if it costs the government 15 cents to make a dollar coin they get an interest free loan of 85 cents for every dollar that is hoarded. I wouldn't be surprised to finds out that the profit on coins hoarded by collectors makes up for a lot of the overhead of the US Mint.

I don't know if the Government can legally recall coins. I don't think they would have to. If they stopped minting/printing new money the natural life cycle of bills/coins would eventually eliminate most of them, the rest would be snapped up by collectors.
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 Posted 09/20/2008  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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And,why is the fed minting these new Dollar Coins?With the value of the dollar today,who is going to carry around a bunch of dollar coins in their pocket?!

There's no reason to carry more than one, unless you use vending machines that take them.
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 Posted 09/21/2008  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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And,why is the fed minting these new Dollar Coins?With the value of the dollar today,who is going to carry around a bunch of dollar coins in their pocket?!A dollar doesn't buy much these days...They should be minting $5 coins instead.....Just my thoughts...


Since when does our government do anything logical? In reality this time they are. By continuing minting coins no one wants or uses, they don't have to worry about anyone counterfeiting them. If no one wants the real ones, no one will make fake ones. Just think about all the fake 16D Merc's, 09S VDB Lincolns, etc. Counterfeiters make theses all the time but no one will make a coin no one wants.
And by starting a series of coins that will take yearly additions, they sort of guarantee their jobs for a few more years anyway.
This would have stopped if the government would just outsourse the coin making to China. Then our coins would all be Lead, none left for toys and the toys would now be safe.
Taking a toll road today I noticed that there was only one toll booth left and about 5 what is called Ipass lanes. Those are where you pay for a thing on your window ahead of time and no longer need coins to go through. AND if you do pay with coins, the toll is now double. Coins are going away. I just wonder when kids will have a plastic card for a gum ball machine?
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 Posted 09/21/2008  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I just wonder when kids will have a plastic card for a gum ball machine?
Pretty soon, probably. It seem like all of the arcades around here are "cashless" now; they do not even use tokens anymore. Everything is on a plastic card that you "fill up" at the cashier.
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