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Bedrock of the Community
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Can you post a full pics ,from both sides?
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Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.  |
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Looks like it might be a bit on the crusty side but I sure would like to see the entire coin. Love overdates !
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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to the CCF Great find. There are a number of overdates in the large cent series. Looking forward to seeing the full pics ....  |
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to the CCF! Amazing find! I love the large dollars! Especially the overrate varieties.  -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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Now that is odd. Sort of looks like an 1800 over a 1890 but that would make no CENTS. Or an 1790 with an 1800 over that which would really be odd since none were made in 1790. Dies were made in batches at the mint and the dates were punched in with individual number punches. Toward the end of the year only the first three digits were punched in and then later the last digit punched in shortly before hardening. This allowed the die to be used in the subsequent year if necessary. At the end of 1798 the mint had at least seven, possibly eight obv dies still on hand, two fully dated 1798 and the rest just 179_. One of the fully dated dies was used in 1799 to make the 1799/8, and one of the 179_ to make the non-overdated 1799 S-189. But 1799 was a low mintage year and at the end of 1799 there were still six of the dies made in 1798 left. rather than dispose of perfectly good dies they were over-punched with 1800 (on the OP coin you can clearly see the serif of the 7 sticking out of the top of the 8.). One of the dies had the full 1798 date and this die was used to create the 1800/1799 S-190, 191, NC-5, and NC-6. The other 5 dies now dated 1800/179 were used to make S-192, 193, 194, 195, 196, and NC-2. The last 8 on the fully overdated dieis faint an usually only visible on high grade coins, but is is eazy to identify because it is the only 1800 that has the type 1 hair bust. Edited by Conder101
09/03/2019 11:24 pm
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While I have the right forum with people knowledgeable about this series, can anyone explain why someone would carve into this cent? I found it a couple of days ago with my detector about 7" deep in East Hampton, NY. Thanks.   |
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@Detectorist ..... Re the 1801, these punch marks appear to be simply PMD as opposed to a meaningful counterstamp. My avatar is, in effect, PMD, but it bears the mark of a gunsmith. The marks on your 1801 suggest to me the possibility that someone may have punch-marked a crude cross, perhaps? The "why" is buried with the maker of these punch marks. Good luck, digging him up! |
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While I have the right forum with people knowledgeable about this series, can anyone explain why someone would carve into this cent? I found it a couple of days ago with my detector about 7" deep in East Hampton, NY. Thanks. Early coppers were used for many purposes. It's possible this one was placed beneath an object (for support) that was struck from above with a hammer/mallet, leaving that cross mark. Or, some lover was making a love token for his girl, then he found out she had run off with Jedidiah so he abandoned the project. What detector are you using to get coppers at 7 inches and can I come visit and bring my Minelab Sovereign? |
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The 1800 is S-196, the most common of the 1800 overdate, the 1801 is S-224 also a VERY common variety. As to why someone would punch or carve the 1801, because they can/want to. How many people mutilate current coins today? Read the error coin sections on any coin forum and you will find that Post Strike Damaged/mutilated coins exceed the actual error coins shown by something like 4 to 1.
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Looks to me like Gincoin43 is probably the closest so far if hes correct that's a $85 cent in p01.
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Nics score out east on Long Island man! I live on LI and am always on the lookout when demoing jobs!
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