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Odd Marks On Lincoln's Shoulder On A 1946 Wheat Penny

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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
To me it looks like a struck through that slow fell off the coin in vertical layers? I haven't seen this before. Is the area in question below the surface of the fields and bust area? If so that maybe the cause. If it is level with the fields and bust, it may have been something like a sticker on this area, that peeled off the coin? Just hard to say from the images provided. Images with rotating the coin 90 degrees might show us more?
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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoerendtM to your friends list
Let me see if I have any acetone first and I will try and take multiple pics from different angles ok. Give me a little bit...
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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoerendtM to your friends list
I soaked it in some acetone for about 5 min and took a few other pics but my hands are real Shakey right now so I hope these help
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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoerendtM to your friends list
Can't get a pic at really any other angle either lighting or my twitching hands
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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoerendtM to your friends list
And I apologize bit yes, it appears to be below the surface. Looks like it's definitely part of the coin
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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoerendtM to your friends list
Again I apologize, it's a 1948 and not a 46
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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
So if they are incuse, then they maybe a struck through debris or intentional damage with something very small and rounded. (too small to be from a ball point pen) Ball point pen would be this wide:
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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoerendtM to your friends list
And how about the T in the wheat stalk and if whatever that is on is back/shoulder is struck through then would it be a form of an error or?
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 Posted 11/24/2019  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoerendtM to your friends list
And if it is something that's been intentionally done it's definitely from someone that's darn good cause those lines are straight..
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 Posted 11/24/2019  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JoerendtM to your friends list
How would o be able to find out if it ts damage or a dropped letter and how would I also find out about the marks by Lincoln's back/shoulder?
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 Posted 11/24/2019  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Well 99% if incuse marks on coins are PSD (Post-Strike-Damage) Probably the only person who would know about this coin is the one who damaged this coin. So I'm thinking damage on the whole coin. Not something that could happen during the striking process.
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With the new pics and acetone test, I was actually leaning toward a struck-through-debris for the obverse. Possibly, a weird lamination peel.

The reverse may just be damage. There is a corresponding mark in the field and it may be too distorted to have actually been a struck-through Grease Fill error.

Overall, without seeing it in person, my verdict is .
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I'm leaning towards Spruette001's assessment of possible lamination or struck through extra metal because of the line in the field similar to the profile of the back. It seems like the lines could be present if the metal was "wrinkled" from being scraped off another coin before being struck or rolling out the sheets.

As far as the T goes, I agree with coop about PSD from hits.
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 Posted 11/25/2019  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
First off, to the CCF!

The only way you can be sure if you have an error coin is to have it certified and I don't think that this coin is worth slabbing. Because of the condition of the coin, I don't see it as being much of a collectible. Even if it is a lamination on the obverse, It's not going to bring much if you can sell it. It's just to small of an error and shows too much wear. The reverse doesn't look like a dropped letter to me. Even if it were, it's not one that I would pay for because of the condition of the coin.

It would be different with a mint state red coin. It would be easy to tell if it was an error and would be worth a premium.

I would keep it and show it to an error coin dealer. If you have a coin shop in your area, let them look at the coin. If they don't deal in error coins, try a coin show.

Just my opinion.
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