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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like a step in the right direction to try to keep ahead of the counterfeiters. I'm not too worried about the 40 years—the chips might last much longer than that, and the technology will likely be obsolete long before then anyway.
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Quote: I'm not too worried about the 40 years—the chips might last much longer than that I have to agree, especially since I have floppy disks from the 1980s that still work in my Commodore 1541 drive today. YMMV. 
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Pillar of the Community
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@jbuck, I didn't know you were an antique collector, too! 
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More like an antique never-got-rid-of-iter. I bought all my Commodore stuff when it was still new. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: The nerd in me kind of wishes all of my PCGS Ike already had this. PCGS has a reholder special going on until the end of the year for this.  Quote: For a limited time, get free PCGS Gold Shield with free TrueView Imaging when you submit your coins through our Reholder service. And with the rollout of NFC technology to all PCGS holders, each coin submitted with this promotion will receive NFC technology inserts, providing enhanced anti-counterfeiting capabilities and easy cert verification for your items.
Edited by CoinCollector2012 10/02/2020 12:23 pm
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Quote: PCGS has a reholder special going on until the end of the year for this.  But can I be without my beloved Ikes for the duration?  Or...  Build a third (raw) set and submit it. Not sure I can afford to send in 32 coins at one time though. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Interesting idea! Small adaptation of the suggestions made back in 2007 when the first fake slabs started showing up, to include RFID chips in them. So the "interesting idea" was put forth 13 years ago.
Edited by Conder101 10/06/2020 10:33 am
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Sometimes a good idea is ahead of its time. In my opinion, this feature is better utilised by a smartphone app than it would have been with a computer (with additional software and peripheral device installation required).
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Quote: The nerd in me kind of wishes all of my PCGS Ike already had this. Well, the nerd in me got his wish! My recent purchase (seen here) has this technology, so I used the app to scan the slab. Nice!  
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Pillar of the Community
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I assume these tags are encrypted such that counterfeiters cannot hack them and duplicate/reprogram them?
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Rest in Peace
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I guess this is the new wave of coin collecting . Thank God I'm not into TPG Slabs . I'm very happy with my raw coins . 
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I am pretty sure the Ikes will be the only graded set I build. It is all Bobby's fault, he sold me the first two. 
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Pillar of the Community
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I posted on this in one of the many threads, instead of digging, repost
When the tag is read, it generates an ordinary https page read. The request includes the cert# and a piece of time-based data. The request can be resubmitted for up to 3 or 5 minutes, after which you are told it's invalid and you need to scan the tag again.
Even if you buy the same tags (and they are not PCGS proprietary), you can't generate the same request from just the cert#.
I doubt it would take nation-state resources to crack the keys and nonces, but PCGS could make it far more difficult to usefully crack by generating new keys and nonces every few thousand slabs. There are plenty of processes where the morning startup includes re-keying secure processes.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: A little more security on the one hand, a little less privacy on the other. Which do you prefer? I would rather not have my valuable coins traced to my name using an outside program. It is vital for every collector to develop his own skill of Counterfeit Detection, not just trusting a TPG's opinion and a computer program entirely. I'm with T-BOP, I like my raw coins 
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