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1876 CC Trade Dollar - Authentic Or High Quality Fake?

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 Posted 11/15/2020  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Onedollarbillnut to your friends list
I think it is a counterfeit
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 Posted 11/15/2020  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Comparing these images with those of genuine ones, it looks pretty good to me, but I yield to the experts.
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 Posted 11/15/2020  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list

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Also, the graffiti ziggzagg ("M") seems to be on top of the field? If that's the case, the die should have this ziggzagg?
Also, there is a "V" ziggzagg between the sheaf and the second last star on the right.


It looks like someone carved the name "Kip W" onto the surface. It's raised because of the displacement of metal from the cuts.
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 Posted 11/15/2020  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list
I am by far no expert but it appears genuine to me. But like others have said leave it to someone that specializes in them. Pitty about the graffiti.
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 Posted 11/15/2020  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
I too do not see any indication of it being fake. Looks genuine to me. Certainly a details graffiti coin and one I would pass on though.
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 Posted 11/15/2020  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff 11 to your friends list
Thanks all for the input so far - glad it it leaning heavily towards being authentic. Such a shame about the graffiti - I didn't buy it as an individual, it came to me as part of a collection. Assuming it is authentic (i'd hazard a guess at AU details if graded NGC/PCGS) - what would you estimate value? Maybe between $500 - 700 or so?
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 Posted 11/15/2020  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
probably around $500
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 Posted 11/15/2020  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I wouldn't want to value a graffiti coin.
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 Posted 11/15/2020  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
The graffiti lowers the value substantially and limits the buyer pool. Probably $500 or less is the right ballpark, unless you can find a buyer named Kip W!
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 Posted 11/17/2020  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add suipakpaikungfu to your friends list
Can't put my finger on it, but looks fishy. I'd have it authenticated. let us know!
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 Posted 06/08/2021  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff 11 to your friends list
Just a quick update on this one - came back from NGC UNC details, so I'm happy enough with that!
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 Posted 06/08/2021  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
You knew about the graffiti when you bought it, so you must be happy.
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 Posted 06/08/2021  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Good to hear it came back genuine!

But, not sure why they would call this UNC when it clearly shows signs of circulation. Both NGC and PCGS are quick to give the bump into UNC bc it will be a Details coin, see it all too often.
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 Posted 06/14/2021  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff 11 to your friends list
TY2020B - completely agree, there's no way this would have straight graded an MS grade if the graffiti hadn't been present, I'd of thought AU 50 would have been more like it, and the corresponding AU details
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