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New Member
United States
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IMO, the end of the roll with the obverse showing has been tampered with. OBW rolls can be opened and re-closed easily. Below is a photo of a roll of Martin Van Buren Dollars that I opened and removed 7 Peg Leg "P" mint Marks from. Replaced the 7 dollars and resealed it using my fingernails and a pencil.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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it does look tampered with from the end with heads showing. I would open it, after all isn't that why you bought it? I also think that there should be some toning on that end since its already been 52 years. still a pretty good deal for a BU Roll though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It just looks like they were looking for the date on the roll to me , since in the photo in does not appear to have one written on the roll and the date does not show on the obverse end .
of course anything is possible .
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Being in law enforcement all my life, I might be a little overly suspicious. When a seller adds this line "As with many of these rolls, there is the possibilty of toning, spots, fingerprints, smudges, etc" he is planting the seed in your mind that there is some coins in this roll your not going to be happy with. CYA. Let us know how these turn out.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don' know. If you look at his recent auctions, he sells a lot of BU rolls for $30 each or so. $12 doesn't look like such a bad price for OBW. And critically analyzing how the ends are closed is a kind of fool's errand. As someone said - it's been 50 years! I'd be more suspicious if they looked perfect.
As far as opening 'em. I've got a few pre-1982 OBW rolls and a couple Jefferson OBW's. I keep dreaming of that long, rainy day with nothing else to do. Nah. Probably never open them. Or maybe I will....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I mean no dis-respect however, with a post like "one" above, isn't that the exact reason for any suspicion in the first place?
I would enjoy the coins, and always, buyer beware!!!
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Moderator
 United States
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I am one of those people that must know what treasures might be inside. I am also one of those people that likes to look at coins, not rolls of coins. So my obviously biased advice to you is to open them!  |
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Valued Member
United States
77 Posts |
I say open them. The fun and excitement of opening them makes it worth the cost of the roll. Why leave the fun to someone else in the future.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19963 Posts |
Hard to say if they're original. People sell bank wraps and the shotgun presses on ebay too. It's easy enough to acquire BU coins and then home wrap them for a premium. Lots of people are doing for sure. Just like counterfeit coins, there's counterfeit rolls out there too. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wonder where they got the rolls with that banks name on it ? don't see many of those these days .
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19963 Posts |
Metalman - Printed in China!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I wonder where they got the rolls with that banks name on it ? don't see many of those these days .
Since they're supposed to be from '56 that would be normal. I remember bank names being commonly applied to their wrappers but you're right - You don't see that much anymore as it costs money! Once they arrive and post more comments. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I own a lot of BU Wheat rolls, from looking at your pictures I would be wary. When you get it, shake it. If they are real loose they could have been opened then resealed. Check for toning on the coins when you open it, if one is toned on the inside of the roll it could have been the end coin at one time. I had that happen once, the end coins were BU, when opened there was one that was toned just like it was on the end at one time. Also, try opening the roll then put them back in the roll and seal it up, see if you can do it and how it looks. I have done it and could not tell the difference. There is one kind of roll that is impossable to open then reseal-  These rolls are crimped real tight on the ends. Quote:
I wonder where they got the rolls with that banks name on it ? don't see many of those these days All wheats form 40-50's  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I usually but from a seller, a small lot, to see what he is "peddlimng". If it turns out good stuff, I go back for more. Is it is crap, he gets an extremely nice feedback. most butyers will recognize that as a red flag. As far as the type of rolls shown, I have over a hundred of the same thing, and they are not all stiff, dried brittle paper. I have filled many of them, myself, and store my un-checked rolls, by date, and MM, in boxes of decades. as far as whether to open, or not? You will never know what you missed if you don't. By the sdame toklen, you will wish you had just sent them back, un-opened! It all depends on what you find, AFTER you open the rolls. LOL
Dick
Dick
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi Chrsb I know all the rolls from that time frame have the name of a bank or fed reserve on them My comment was to the counterfiet comment . I have bought hundreds of these rolls and I see them in all conditions with tight ends with loose ends much of how the rolls survive and the condition they are in depends on how they were handled prior to coming to the market place . and I also know that some of the rolls with two reverse ends are impossible to tell the date on in many cases and for an ebay seller its a must to know the dates of the rolls . I see nothing unusual about the roll shown . |
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Posted 12/08/2008 12:42 am
