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Presidential Dollar Updates

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 Posted 03/09/2005  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Speedy to your friends list
I say most people will not collect them--I know there are some persident I'm kin to (WAY down the line) that I would be more prone to get a roll of that priesident than others.
As you know not all president have been R's or D's so there would be planty for other partys.
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 Posted 03/10/2005  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list
[quote]Originally posted by national dealer

One part I do like.

"Just like the State Quarter program that has been so successful, the Presidential dollar coins bill is a win-win proposition. The presidential coins will teach history while generating revenue for the U.S. Treasury. I am also very excited that New York's most famous resident and most powerful symbol, Lady Liberty, will grace the back of each coin."

Other than that one side, this bill needs to die.
Gee for a minute I thought they were talking about Hillary!!!!!
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 Posted 03/11/2005  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zakgold to your friends list
So when does the program end? 4 dollar coins per year and in about 11 years we will catch up to the current President. Do we wait until that President leaves office before we issue his/her dollar coin? What about the future Presidents? Do we mint coins during or after their tenure in office...no matter how much they will hated by 1/2 of the American public. Talk about your banana republic coins, we are headed that way!

The State Quarter program is nice because it honors the state and final designs for each of the state's quarters are choosen by state residents (for the most part). Real people take on a whole differant tone.

Now for me, I can't stand Clinton and I am sure there are many that hate Reagan. Many of our past Presidents (good, bad or otherwise) will be the subject to political discussions. Recently I made a post about these two Presidents:

"Here's winner President for the our dollar coin...William Henry Harrison.

Never heard of him you say? Well, don't be surprised because he held office for only 32 days. Apparantly good 'ole William liked to hear himself talk and his inaugural address lasted 105 minutes (a record back then). He probably should have wore a coat and hat since it was a cold and rainy day because he immediately became ill after his speech and caught pneumonia. He was the first President to die in office.

So what should his coin be? A guy in bed coughing away? That's the legacy I would want to be remembered for...darn right he deserves to grace the American dollar coin. What he did prior to becoming President is NOT the issue. Their tenure in office IS the issue and will be discussed/argued forever! If you look at Lincoln's life before becoming our 16th President, you will be asking yourself, how-in-the-world did he ever get elected? His tenure as President was no way represented of his life leading up to this office...but that's just my opinion and Southern states had a much differant opinion back in 1909 when he first graced the penny.

Let's look at Ford? Ford wasn't even elected to office. Agnew ran with Nixon, not Ford. Ford gets the presidency after the Agnew and Nixon resignations. He couldn't even defeat Carter in 1976. His coin should be him falling down the steps of Air Force One.

Commemorative coins, yes...US circualted coins, absolutely not.

As for teaching out kids...best way to educate your kid is to allow parents a choice as to where to send their kids. If their school is failing, then they should take their tax dollars they would have spent and be allowed to allocate them to a school (private or government) of their CHOICE. Then watch the kids learn when competition is introduced.

I learned about Presidents by reading...kids should try it sometime.


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 Posted 03/11/2005  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list
Hi Zac,
I concur that this is a bad idea, but to answer your question concerning when/where program would end, the bill apparently excludes the sitting president.
GF is the answer to the trivia question- who is the only person to serve as both VP and President without being elected to either office.
Was there opposition to AL on the cent when it was introduced? Learn something new every day...
Don
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 Posted 03/11/2005  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Speedy to your friends list
Zacgold
I must say again that even if we don't like a president we ought to have respect them and not pick on them in any way.
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 Posted 03/12/2005  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zakgold to your friends list
Pick on them? Everyday, political discussions are offered for and against our elected officials. Presidents are no differant. Through the history of the United States, we had great Presidents, average Presidents, and the bottom of the barrel.

If anybody deserves to grace American coins and currency are our founding fathers. They took the ultimate risk. The 55 that signed the Declaration of Independence basically were signing their death sentence as most lost their property, wealth, and family members as a result of their actions and 8 long years of war against England. Even after the battle of Yorktown in 1781, the war lasted another 18 months!

But for other Presidents that don't even make the grade? Do they deserve it? Is that what our founding fathers wanted?

Before we can go forward, we must understand the past. Hate to be the playground bully, but if an past elected official doesn't deserve the honor of gracing American coins and currency, I will continue to "pick" on them. I'll respect them while in office, but they are fair game after they leave office as history will descide their place among others.

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03/12/2005 08:19 am
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 Posted 03/12/2005  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Speedy

Zacgold
I must say again that even if we don't like a president we ought to have respect them and not pick on them in any way.
Speedy


Ideally, this goes for our treatment of all people, not just presidents.

However, our society being what it is, it is inevitable that people will continue to voice their opinions strongly and in the earshot of many. Since our freedom of speech is one of the great things about this country, isn't it ironic that same right can be used to malign our leaders who preserve that right for us?

Another thought: There are many forums who discourage political discussion. If the presidential series is instituted, how will these coins be discussed? You can't get a more politically affiliated coin series than this.
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 Posted 03/12/2005  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
It would appear to me that our founding fathers made the effort to come to this country due to the fact they were sick and tired of being oppressed, over governed, and taxed to death by the current (at the time) government of England. They were more than fed up and had made up their minds to run and run they did. Eventually the wars came to finally win their freedoms and break away from that which they fled in the first place. Does any of this sound familiar? Only difference is there is no place left to run and our government has become that which our forefathers fled!!! A huge monster out of control and we the people sat back and let it happen! And again today we have the self appointed, self righteous trying to tell all the rest of us how to live and I would assume this has a tremendous amount of influence on WHY we are all fed up with a dead politician on our coinage when this country has a tremendous amount of other things that are worth fighting and dying for. Those are the values I would rather see on our coinage!
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 Posted 03/12/2005  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by crystalk64

It would appear to me that our founding fathers made the effort to come to this country due to the fact they were sick and tired of being oppressed, over governed, and taxed to death by the current (at the time) government of England. They were more than fed up and had made up their minds to run and run they did. Eventually the wars came to finally win their freedoms and break away from that which they fled in the first place. Does any of this sound familiar? Only difference is there is no place left to run and our government has become that which our forefathers fled!!! A huge monster out of control and we the people sat back and let it happen! And again today we have the self appointed, self righteous trying to tell all the rest of us how to live and I would assume this has a tremendous amount of influence on WHY we are all fed up with a dead politician on our coinage when this country has a tremendous amount of other things that are worth fighting and dying for. Those are the values I would rather see on our coinage!


Unfortunately, I don't think that a coin design with symbol representing our government or the IRS with a big red circle and line through it would be popular on the Hill.
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 Posted 03/12/2005  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Speedy to your friends list
Zacgold
What I was talking about...do we have to laugh when a president falls down the steps...I bet me and you both have done the same thing in the past--

Susan
You got a point there!

Speedy
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 Posted 03/12/2005  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
Fall down a few steps? Shoot I have fell out of a set of bleachers DURING a high school basketball game with a camera bag hanging on my shoulder and a 35mm camera hanging around my neck. Landing on my back in the middle of the floor with the game action headed my way! I probably got more of a cheer lying there than anyone who scored after my fall! When I make a boo-boo I usually have to do it in front of the world! I am so used to it that a few years ago, while deer hunting, my tree stand broke loose and of course there was no where to go except down!!! After humbling myself repeatedly INTO that tree, with various parts of my body on the way down and then then sudden stop that placed all of me into the tree, I still managed to take the time, after hitting the ground, to look around to see if anyone was laughing! No human laughter but I am sure the squirrels, raccoons and birds were all saying "What a dumb ---!!!" That is what is so great about this country, somehow WE all manage to laugh even through the pain and our ability to do so probably is the greatest asset we have! Keeps our serious and troubling side at bay, so to speak!
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 Posted 03/12/2005  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zakgold to your friends list
Ford's falling down the steps of Air Force One was just a representation of his tenure as President. It's called symbolism.

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 Posted 03/12/2005  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by zakgold

Ford's falling down the steps of Air Force One was just a representation of his tenure as President. It's called symbolism.

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Though let's not forget the conditions through which he rose to the presidency. Everything was working against him. He really didn't have a prayer. He had the presidency thrust upon him with no real preparation. I think we all have to admit that the positions of VP and Pres are as different as apples and oranges. I, for one, did not envy his position throughout the Watergate incident and people will always link his name with this fiasco also through no fault of his own.
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 Posted 03/13/2005  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy to your friends list
Well Ford never gave North Korea the technology to build nuclear reactors and Ford never gave China our space technology with the ability to launch missles with direct hits at us and Ford never did a lot of other dangerous things that other Presidents have done. I liked Ford. He was the transitional president and he knew it which is why he laugh with us for he knew the county needed to laugh at the President after being shocked by Nixon and watergate inorder to feel safe about that position of power again but still let us not forget that under his watch Iran was still our ally. Wouldn't want to see him or a host of others on a coin thru.I would rather see patriots and statesmen then politicans and managers. Actually Truman and Reagan are the only two Presidents I could think of since 1944 that I would like to see on a coin but I'm sure there are alot of folks who think otherwise and that is what makes this nation great. Not the Presidents but the people.
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 Posted 03/13/2005  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
I might as well get my Two Cents in on this subject. Even though this is just another series for the mint to make money and to get the dollar to circulate, it is doomd to failure. The banks will refuse to circulated it. They will only be given out if you ask for them and then you will get attitude.

The coins themselves will have a shallow strike and be of inferior quality. We now know just how bad is acceptable to the mint. I have my reasons for being against this series but it will probably pass.

catman
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