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Pillar of the Community
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Could be my old eyes, but something looks odd about this coin
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The Reverse has multiple die cracks all around the coin. These are all markers for the No Design with Die Cracks in a relatively early die state of the die cracks which will get steadily worse.... see Zoell FL452q.
So this would indicate to me that the Reverse is genuine and that the Obverse is most probably genuine..
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks, guys, your comments are very interesting and are much appreciated.
IMO, there is no issue with being authentic. I have another, not as nice and ungraded, with the same Die cracks, not as prominent.
The reverse strike is very powerful/beautiful on the subject coin. I am surprised the die survived that. It must have "fallen apart" soon after.
and although you all have great comments, Pacific is the only one who recognized the Double HP and JimmyD hit the grade.
I was not aware of this on 50 cent coins before.
the question is: since it affects values on the $1 coins, how will it affect values on the 50 Cent pieces?
Oh yes fellows, NGC graded it as MS64 - no design in date.
nice.. am wondering what Canadian TPGS would say...?
Edited by 47P7
02/16/2021 7:48 pm
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There must have been an Obverse Die change as there is NO evidence of a doubled 'HP' on the 'No Design with Die Cracks' coin that I have. The only true DDO with 'doubled HP' that I have seen in the 50c series is on the 1951 and the 1952 (the 1952 with significant doubling of the HP can be found with 4 different Reverse Dies and the 1952 with less significant doubling of the HP can be found with 2 different Reverses}. Edited by pginrh
02/17/2021 08:43 am
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Pillar of the Community
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well, looking at the subject coin and the other one I have with the same die crack, I think it is obvious that these have 2 different HP's although I might be wrong.? hence your assumption of different dies might be correct.    |
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I have to agree with pginrh on this one I don't believe there's a double HP, If you can supply better closeups of the HP it would be helpful.
I have this coin in a very early die state with only the die crack through the "0" in the date and there's no double HP on the obverse.
I've seen many of this reverse and in multiple die states and never seen one with a doubled "HP".
You need to have a closer look at that HP under magnification, if it's doubled you'll easily see it.
For now I would need more convincing.
Gorgeous coin by the way and I think it's graded properly.
Cheers, Bill
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Bill
I will see my others and take close ups again, hopefully tomorrow
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Bedrock of the Community
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there is NO evidence of a doubled 'HP' on the 'No Design with Die Cracks' coin that I have. I have 3 no Design, one with no cracks, one with early stage crack and one with late stage crack and there is no doubled HP on any of them. I also checked my full and half design coins and there is no doubling on any of them. I'm wondering if perhaps it is light reflection on the 47P7 coin that is making it look doubled. Edited by JimmyD
02/17/2021 9:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I will take new images hopefully tomorrow and go as close as I can with my 90mm macro lens
we shall see if we can solve this mystery.
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Pillar of the Community
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Ok, I cranked the macro lens to its capability and here are the results. There is, IMO, a very high probability that JimmyD is correct ?. you guys be the judge.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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With the new pictures, I see no sign of any doubling.
Guess it was just the light reflection.
At least I won't have to look for another variety.
Compliments on your photography, makes it easy to see any detail.
Edited by JimmyD
02/18/2021 12:56 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks JimmyD. it's all in the lens and a bit of effort.
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Yes, I think that Rocky has the same "reflection" problems when he takes those 100X magnifications.
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New pix..... no doubling !
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