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1876 25c Liberty Seated Quarter (4 Of 4)

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 Posted 05/01/2021  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Really weird that Coinfrog always seem so indignant when he has to grade from photos that are hard to make out detail from, so I took a further step to try to make the pictures a little easier to make out. Not surprised that now he needs the original pictures. Like I've send earlier my friend, you should seek some professional help.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
WADR, why even bother posting these until we can look at in hand pics? Best anyone can do is a guesstimate, probably no better than you're capable of handling.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Grading from pictures on the internet is an essential skill. You don't always have 100% information and that's the way life is. If you can't give a grade, then don't, and wait for when the in-hand pictures arrive, Don't understand why that's a big deal. No one is forcing you to give a grade.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
I think you missed the point NS. Yes, grading from pics is a great skill to have, not arguing that. My point being, no matter how good one is at grading from pics, it's next to impossible to accurately judge surfaces with pics like these. Yes, we can get close, but there can be a lot hiding.

My point being..... why not just wait until you receive the actual coin to post pics in hand, without the horrible seller pics.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Because, as you said, grading from pics is a great skill to have. So why not practice it? I made a purchase decision based on those pics and maybe others and certainly I want to see, not just the pictures of the coin I received, but the pictures of the coin that I based my purchase decision on. It helps me track, along with this community, how I'm doing in spotting clues and finding a good coin even with bad pictures.

Really have a hard time understanding why it bothers people that I post the pictures that caused me to buy a coin.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  01:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Fair enough.

Basing on these, I'm at a tentative VF25/30 with the possibility of it being Details if that's a rim hit on the reverse at K11. For the most common date quarter, would be a pass for me. I'll keep my $35.
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Here you go snowflake.

Not surprised that now he needs the original pictures. Like I've send earlier my friend, you should seek some professional help.


Watch the tone.
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Perhaps that should be directed at the person who has a meltdown in every thread I post.
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Perhaps that should be directed at the person who has a meltdown in every thread I post.


What I said wasn't a question. I'm with him that grading from the unaltered is easier, especially in this case. However, am not okay with Frog, who I know to be an extremely kind person, being disrespected in that fashion.

If you wanted to edit them to make them easier to view, this is what they should have looked like. This took less than 5 minutes.


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Watch your tone.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  02:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
You get respect when you give respect. I don't see any coming from coinfrog or from you.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
I personally appreciate the grading threads that start out with seller's photos. I make a lot of purchases myself with photos that are subpar, bidding conservatively is very easy and you can score some nice coins this way. It's fun to be able to test your estimation skills based off subpar pictures.

http://goccf.com/t/323374

This coin, for example, had one single picture from about 5 feet away, unfortunately I don't have it saved but I'm sure you can imagine. From pictures so bad I could only discern a small amount of detail that made me believe it was XF or better. Obviously it came in way better than I even hoped for $33.

Maybe in the future NS, always post the original seller's photos, and include your attempt at manipulating them below them.
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 Posted 05/02/2021  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
NS's pictures are fine for grading but I like the second set of pictures he posted more. With that said, VF30. Obverse carries
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 Posted 05/02/2021  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
A collector could spend a lifetime assembling a variety collection of the Philadelphia centennial quarter, alone. There are over 100 obverse and over 100 reverse dies for this date, and only 8 or 9 die pairings have been attributed so far. I suspect the final attribution guide for 1876 will resemble Haxby's masterpiece for the 1859 Canada Large Cent.

Your coin has heavy die clashing and extensive die cracks. Those and the recut stars will eventually help with attribution.

The pics are dizzying. I'll wait for the in-hand pics before attempting numerical grading. IMHO, this one is likely VF-35 to EF-40. At $35, you're a bit ahead of the game either way.
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