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1971-D Eisenhower Dollar Coin DDR Or Nice M/D?

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 Posted 05/09/2021  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
This is a 1971-D not a 1976-D.
The MD on the legs looks interesting, but is also in the same direction as the rest of the MD. So it is not a doubled die. All the affected areas are flat and shelf like. Reducing the Devices and the contour on the coin. But this is not the low swing classic Machine Doubling, it bounced up a bit, so it is not the lower areas that are affected, but the mid raised devices are affected. Note that not all the leaves are affected, just some of the taller leaves and the legs of the eagle. So it was not the normal low swing of the machine. I'd probably save this one as a show and tell item to show to a new collector. Your title: "Nice M/D?" There is no nice MD, but the machine damaged the devices after the strike. And it can vary differently from strike to strike. How do I know that?
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Note the same die markers on each set of images. But note that the MD is different on each one. That is how I know it can be different from strike to strike.
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 Posted 05/09/2021  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
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 Posted 05/09/2021  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Emaroots23 to your friends list
Totally my bad on the title Loving those photos with all that information on them Coop! I can't wait until I am as knowledgeable as you are and among many in the Coin Community. You all are so helpful with us newbies. Thank you Coop, for always breaking it down into easy to read context and not using tons of abbreviations that I haven't quite learned yet. Lol. I'm getting there though I promise.:)
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 Posted 05/10/2021  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It just takes time. You just have to learn the new language. Learning to understand how the coins are struck, what can go wrong during the strike process, and get the sense of negative and positive designs. How each are affected as the die ages, as the machine wear out, and what happens to coins after they leave the mint. These are the most common things we deal with here. When you figure this out, it helps with the thinking process. It just takes time. Enjoy the the ride.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list

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not using tons of abbreviations that I haven't quite learned yet

Then your not gonna like any of my replies . I figure if you want to be in the hobby you need to learn the jargon.I had to.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Emaroots23 to your friends list
John1..I appreciate all replies. Honestly I need to do more reading and researching before I look at any more coins. I spend so much time breaking my neck and back and especially my eyes thinking I've got something. What's the best book to buy for error coins? That is what I am most interested in.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Emaroots23 to your friends list
I received several coins from my best friend. They are in pretty good shape, to my eye anyway. Can I post them all on one post in the grading forum or do I need to do them individually? 5 Peace dollars,5 Eisenhower and 2 1901 Morgans.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Best to post them individually in the proper forum.
This can save confusion when there is more than one coin per thread.
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 Posted 05/11/2021  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Emaroots23 to your friends list
What do yall think this would coin would grade?
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 Posted 05/11/2021  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Not a book but a really good web site:http://www.error-ref.com/
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 Posted 05/11/2021  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
In super high grade MS-67
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/39512691
MS-66
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/40167796
Big Drop $225
MS-65
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/41209064
Bigger drop: $30 It would cost more for grading fees than this die state would bring back for being slabbed. So anything less than that is out out of the picture for grading purposes.
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 Posted 05/11/2021  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Emaroots23 to your friends list
Yea I saw that Coop. The grading system is really hard for me. Coins that look really raunchy end up being MS67 so that will take a while for me to learn. So you don't it grade high?
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 Posted 05/11/2021  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I guess my approach is to show that only the highest grade coins are worth grading. Average stuff is only a pipe dream to consider sending it in to be slabed. It will cost more than you will ever get back for the grade. Myself when buying a coin pay nothing extra for a slab coin. Just the raw price is all I'd pay. A coin in a coffin is nothing special to me. So how many have I sent of to be slabed? Zero. To me it is the grading company's getting rich on this scheme. Most of the time I don't agree with there grades many times. So my motto? "Buy the coin, not the slab." If you feel the grade is not correct, the only offer the lower grade price. Don't just take their word, be convinced yourself if they are right or wrong. You're the buyer, you have that right. Easy to pass on a coin, than to buy a problem coin. So don't be swayed on the plastic.
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 Posted 05/13/2021  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Emaroots23 to your friends list
Very good to know.
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