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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@PineCreek (I like the name). If you want to collect the early die strike coins, I congrat you. This it is one of the most sensitive side of collecting. It is possible I know but very hard to identified and collect. I hope you can brink together as much is possible. For me will be a pleasure to see a such collection. All my best.
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New Member
 United States
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http://goccf.com/t/402732#3443878With all due respect, I have no reason to lie. I am not here to waste anyone's time. I bought a number of mint sets, and these were both cut out of two of those sets. Because I am new here and to collecting, I ask these questions,that are sometimes embarrassing because I truly do not know as much as many collectors here do. I genuinely do want to know if this is something I should explore further? Because they both came out of mint sets, and one looks so different from all the ones I have that are 40% silver, I figured it is an error coin or something. I was hoping someone could confirm that or not? 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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While the 40% silver sets look like silver ones, the edges have a hint of something going on with them:  SMS were only 1965-1967. 40% were from 1965-1970-D. (1970-D was only available in mint sets) The one I view as plated was the one on the left on the edge view. There were proof half dollars that year, but they were San Francisco mints. Yours are both Denver mints. 1968-S DDO's  Try taking another image of the second coin without so much glare? That may be making us suspicious of plating. Also allow the light to flow across the motto devices. Variety Vista lists three DDO's. Wexler lists none for that year? (Seems strange to me) http://www.varietyvista.com/12%20Ke...201968-S.htmYou might need diffuse you light. Things that can cut glare is paper or even plastic grocery bags. Make a way to make the light pass through these materials with out touching the bulb. Then take a look to see it that removes the glare issue?  
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm no expert, but I have another theory. Rather than the second coin being too shiny, is it possible that the first coin has some PVC haze? There is little or no luster. I recently bought a 1968 mint set that had PVC haze on several coins. This might explain the difference between the two.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Moderator
 United States
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Well I can say for certain that they are not a proof or SMS coin. SMS were only made for the public in 1965, 66, and 67 And then any coins minted during those years did not have any Mint marks to prevent hoarding. In 1968 only San Francisco carrying an 'S' mint mark made proof coins, not Denver. your coins are business strike coins. Whether from Mint sets or from normal circulation is the question. They both look a tiny bit banged up, but who knows how they were treated after they left the mint.
I for one would like to see better pictures - full coin both sides. and with better lighting - try to reduce any glare.
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New Member
 United States
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Coop, thank you so much for the advise on the lighting. I have the Celestron USB microscope 5MP and the light source is tiny little bulbs that make a circle outside of the lens. I covered the little bulbs with paper, but there is still glare I think (please see picture below). Have not had much time to play around with it enough to get it right, but will keep trying. Thank you Parnelli917, also. It may be. But in person, the coin that is shiny, is not just shiny, but mirror like. The reflection on it is similar to that of a proof coin. I found that weird because it had a D mint mark. When I think I got better shots, less glare, I will post them in this thread. Thank you all again for your input. I truly appreciate it. 
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New Member
 United States
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At Dearborn's request. Please find pics below. I do not know about better lighting, but I took these with my cell phone. I put a pen over each of the coins to show the difference in the reflections. Also, as I previously stated, I got these from a mint set each. Not loose, not from a bank roll, or an album, or anything like that. I bought a few mint sets, and noticed the difference in the really shiny (mirror-like) one, and decided to ask here to see if this may be an error coin. I did not state before, it weighs 11.7 grams, the other one weighs 11.5 grams. Thank you.    
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Edited by coop 06/22/2021 5:53 pm
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New Member
 United States
37 Posts |
Thank you so much Coop. I honestly appreciate your help. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
On you two images, the use of the light is the same on both images. Using the pen color would be more convincing if the pen was used on the same side of the images. Placing the coin vertically rather than horizontally. Then the pen differences could be seen better. This could be taken in two shots. On the second shot you could place the second coin on the top of the other coin, thus the locations would be the same? The more you start illustrating coins, the quicker ideas will come to you. Look at how others place them, then see if you could think if a better solution to a problem. Then use what pluses work for the better. I'm still coming up with new solutions for old problems. I find my self looking at the setups on the shows and see what they are doing and how I could think up a different way to create illustrations. My mind is always working. (sometimes hard to shut it down)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
893 Posts |
I acknowledge that you say both coins came from mint sets but the "shiny" one looks like it has had some pocket shine. The devices look worn.
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New Member
 United States
37 Posts |
Hi again, I do not know if this is better? My lighting is always left wanting, my apologies. However, I took a pic of the rims again. If they are both 40% silver, why does the "shiny" one's edge look like it may be fully clad?    
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
That show the true colors better. The hazing if from being the holders so long. Now that one doesn't look plated anymore. So now could you inclue images of 'IN GOD' and 'We TRUST'? Those were the devices I was seeing as hub doubled? But the issue with the plating took over my mind. The tops of the devices may have been wiped of the hazing and this making it look like it was damaged, when it really probably wasn't.
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New Member
 United States
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