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Valued Member
United States
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I just sold a few expensive coins, among them my slabbed MS64 BN '55 DDO. I've held on to it for half a century. This sale was my first venture out into that world. Age and illness have decreed that time has become my most precious resource and in future I'll be given less and less to spend on coin collecting. It was time to move. I've no idea what I'm doing. I just know it's time to do it while I still can. Upon recent contemplation, I believe owning coins should imitate owning and operating a car or a medical license. Start with education and training; then add supervised practice; next, testing by experts to secure a provisional license with restrictions, then finally a full license (which becomes invalid if the owner fails to accrue enough continuing education units annually). I've been doing some post-sale studying to assess my handling of the DDO sale. I accepted $3,200.00. Here's what I learned. PCGS reports that one like mine sold recently for $4,500.00. But, we must assume that one was sold by its owner AND a corporation, most likely an auction house. I'd place the fees at around 20% or $900.00, so the owner cleared $3,600.00, perhaps. So, I figure I may have sacrificed a $300.00 discount in order to reduce the time, risk and stress. The sale took two minutes. The dealer I sold to is likewise saddled with fees he must pay to re-sell that coin (hired help, building costs, taxes, transportation). I'm thinking I did okay. Kevin
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Valued Member
United States
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My idea of hidden costs is slightly different in how can I hide this purchase from my wife lol.
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Valued Member
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Quote: What are the hidden, 'feel good' benefits of coin collecting? Being swarmed by adoring fans wanting to bear my babies... no wait, that's my musical feel good dream... I keep hoping there is some underground coin collector's groupie fanclub that I have yet to stumble upon. Uhm... coins... uhm? Because of how the who I am and some ideas of each sow, I am bafflegasted that I collect currency and that I do not use currency only as such. My feel good here is kinda at odds and sometimes totally at war. They are Art and that is really my only feel good... I can't even guarantee that my hoard will be worth more than the inheritance paperwork that will be read to my 3 children. Thank you for the reply.
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Valued Member
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Quote: how can I hide this purchase from my wife Absolutely yes one has to include on the $10 coin the cost of the "I'm sorry" chocolates, wine and floral arrangements when they eventually find out and restrict the mutual use of the wedding bed! Having gone through divorce and the subsequent parental discrimination, I wouldn't suggest being dishonest with a spouse... your union is supposed to be unifying and anything done to one is done or maybe perpetrated upon the other mutually. Hope that wasn't a downer... thanks for "confessing your sins" lol
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Quote: You forgot special stapler, heat sealer, magnifying glasses, loupes, scale, gloves, camera, copy stand, microscope, containers, ezest, acetone, capsules, capsule holders, etc. Gack, lol, I'm currently in an acetone tongue wrestling match here. It has been very pleasant. At this juncture in my career collection I don't believe acetone will ever be in the withdrawal column, lol, but I, although I do not remember my final calculations, did add the cost of 4 staples per 2x2 cardboard flip to a test I was conducting. It is possible to get this intensely specific, if one was so inclined. Too much work for me though, it would cut into my music making moments. Which I guess is why I haven't gone further into the inscriptions on my China fakes/forgeries/repros/templecoins/souvenier/cash... etc Gack, I'm pedling gibberish... thanks for the chat!
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Valued Member
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Quote: if your relationship with your spouse is turning sour, make sure that the coin is not sold without you knowing, just to spite you. Keep your most precious coins secured in your bedroom so that if ever your spouse finds the hidden security cameras you've expertly installed in several advantageous locations, you can with a reasonably straight face claim they are there for the security of your coin collection and not other, possibly nefarious, reasons, lol. I told the woman that divorced me to be with her teenage first fling not to flush her wedding and engagement ring down the toilet as, she was exclaiming to be planning a wedding dress burning party. She said she wouldn't and I don't know one way or the other. I sold mine for melt and felt absolutely f'ing nothing. Whoops... lol, rant alert! Thanks for the reply!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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lol...can I add although not an added expense but the emotional stress I paid, Xylene is prohibited for sale in California and I found it in Utah during a recent vacation, got 2 quarts and brought it home with me..... 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This a hobby so if you make money or loose some, all part of the hobby. Think of people that have cars for their hobby. Some spend many thousands of dollars on just one car and loose most of it when sold. Coins are similar. Just a hobby.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2869 Posts |
I use vechicles for hobbies but I never lose much cause youbuy it broken and fix it yourself.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: This a hobby so if you make money or loose some, all part of the hobby. Think of people that have cars for their hobby. Some spend many thousands of dollars on just one car and loose most of it when sold. Coins are similar. Just a hobby. I agree completely.
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Valued Member
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Quote: This a hobby Gack... if only that for me were true. It is a way of life, if I can be cliche here. Life doesn't revolve around this obsession but it did change me more than just on the surface, so to speak. Wherever I go I look at everything differently. If I had been interested earlier on in life with this, I would have bought two of everything and put one in storage for 40 years and never breathed upon it and I ain't just talking currency. I should be doing this now and, to some degree, am. I am a musician/recording artist. In a community I used to be in, we had a lengthy, in depth discussion surrounding what makes us either a hobbyist, amateur and or professional. The bottom line came at... you're a professional when you get paid for it. Might be it the same truth to the matter here? Whatever the actual case, I don't consider this a hobby. My hoard is apart of the inheritance I leave to my children 'cause I ain't taking it with me. Does this make me a hobbyist or a miser or a business banking entrepreneur?
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Quote: not an added expense but the emotional stress I paid, Oh but it is an expense, there is a price to pay for the stress and it is called, paying your psychiatrist bills! Yes. I didn't mention this but it is an add to the total end cost... stress. "Is my collection secure?"... paranoia... I learned this when I worked at a book/movie/music type used bookstore. My movie collection was impressive but I couldn't help but worry someone would break in and pilfer it. A little more than 20 years ago I got rid of it all just for that reason of... stress!
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Valued Member
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Quote: This a hobby so if you make money or loose some, all part of the hobby. Quote: I use vechicles for hobbies but I never lose much cause youbuy it broken and fix it yourself. Quote: I agree completely. Ugh... okay you lot got me thinking again or, maybe it is just the pot, lol. Buying, restoring and the subsequent selling of a vehicle, I do not believe, can be exactly considered a hobby. Would the hobby not be, the restoration of a vehicle and the, buying and selling considered a, "Flip"? Getting recognition in the form of financial payment for the passion one might have for restoring a vehicle would turn the "hobbyist" mechanic into a "professional", one-time, part-time or full-time flipper. This would then be the case for hoarders of coin and currency if this were true... selling makes one no longer just an enthusiast.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
7962 Posts |
Numismoneurosis. It's treatable. Ask your doctor. 
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Valued Member
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Quote: Numismoneurosis. I was misdiagnosed with Exonumiaitus and have to wait for the drugs to expire in my system before attempting another round of experimental treatment!
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