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Moderator
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@jerry, best practice is to start a new thread for each new coin, so I've split this out for you.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very nice find, great looking, problem free example (basing off obverse) 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very nice! A really nice variety and in high grade for it too. You don't find the one in neck in higher grades often, congrats!
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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Valued Member
 United States
481 Posts |
Here's the reverse And a close up shot 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2156 Posts |
Very nice example! Beats the XF one I picked a while back. Congrats on a great coin!
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Valued Member
 United States
481 Posts |
I knew the guy that bought this would tone it. I see identifying marks to confirm it's the same coin. https://www.ebay.com/itm/185072612143 This is why I don't trust NGC or even PCGS. I think ANACS does a better job of identifying this kinda crap.
Edited by Jerry Picker 09/29/2021 8:12 pm
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Valued Member
 United States
481 Posts |
This one takes the cake though. I sold this to him at the same time as the 1897. I'm dumbfounded. The token was a much lighter color and had some corrosion around the nose. https://www.ebay.com/itm/185068890161
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's Mikesmountain coins for you. Guy is a lot of really choice words that cannot be said on CCF. Gives them the MS70 treatment before sending them in. How NGC has not caught on by now when a sub comes in with who knows how many of the same identical toning. Should send a red flag, you'd think  .
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, seller is a scammer.
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Valued Member
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
Sadly, he'll have no problem recouping his money and then some. Should sell for well over that amount.
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Valued Member
 United States
481 Posts |
I congratulated him on his sale and sent him pics of my 09-s VDB and asked if he would dip that one and he said yes. He thought it would go MS62. He would do it to a $1500 coin. That's confidence. I asked ANACS if they would conserve it for $39 and they said no.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd side with ANACS, no need for anything on that one except maybe a quick acetone bath at most (precautionary, not knowing how it was previously handled/stored). Then send it in as is.
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Valued Member
 United States
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I used some Blu-Bow on both coins with a Q-Tip to get rid of the tarnish and dirt. My pics are what they looked like after that. Also, I had Rick Snow take a look at the before and afters of the 1 in neck and he said NGC shoulda bodybagged it as altered color. All of the experts in the NGC forum thought that I was off my rocker and didn't know how to grade. I'll take his word over any of theirs.
Edited by Jerry Picker 10/07/2021 12:35 pm
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