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Fake Morgan ?

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 Posted 01/20/2009  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
When a seller has auctions like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/40-SILVER-ROUND_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/110337389933 target= _blank rel= nofollow 110337389933 /a QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_Bullion?hash=item a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/110337389933 target= _blank rel= nofollow 110337389933 /a &_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2%7C65:13%7C39:1%7C240:1318

It's pretty tough to believe anything else they say!

P.S. He also sells very convincing 2-sided Peace dollars.
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 Posted 01/20/2009  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
I basically know nothing about Morgans, so I studied a few at Heritage to learn something.
Just a quick comparo between this coin and what I saw. For starters, what is up with that 3?

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Yeah--obviously a bad copy.
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 Posted 01/20/2009  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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For starters, what is up with that 3?
It looks almost as if someone made a counterfeit 1908 before realizing "Oops! There were no 1908 Morgan dollars! No problem, I'll make it a 1903 instead!"
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 Posted 01/20/2009  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
I went through the same exact thought process.
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 Posted 01/20/2009  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list
If you check a sellers feedback it warns you about what they sell. This seller had 4 buyers that suspected fake coins.
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 Posted 01/20/2009  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
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Date does not look right. Check out the '0' too..
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 Posted 01/20/2009  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jewellge to your friends list
Here's one that I know is real, it came from my grandmother, way back

Definitely not English as a first language

Plus the color of the Morgans look strikingly similar


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 Posted 01/23/2009  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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It looks almost as if someone made a counterfeit 1908 before realizing "Oops! There were no 1908 Morgan dollars! No problem, I'll make it a 1903 instead!"


I wouldn't think the people in China would care about that.
I waiting for them to start making Morgan dollars with dates from 1922 and up.
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 Posted 01/23/2009  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list
Well, Morgans are still technically legal tender.
Maybe the US would start to care about the forgeries
if we started spending the glut of counterfeit Morgans.
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 Posted 01/27/2009  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list
Why is his guy still selling.
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 Posted 01/27/2009  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Why is his guy still selling.


Because ebay is that corrupt, and that unresponsive.
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 Posted 01/28/2009  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Well, Morgans are still technically legal tender.
Maybe the US would start to care about the forgeries
if we started spending the glut of counterfeit Morgans.

Well they might care, but the person they would be going after and putting in jail would be you not the guy making them because he is not violating the law to make them because he is not in a location covered by US jurisdiction. He is also not breaking the law sending them here. The person IMPORTING into this country IS violating the law but what they are doing is not a felony. But if you SPEND them then you are committing a federal crime of knowingly passing counterfeit money and you HAVE committed a felony for which YOU can do serious time. I think I'd rather try and get their attention in other ways :)
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 Posted 01/29/2009  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Just FYI: The US Secret Service is who you report counterfeiting to. (They were very helpful and courteous when I had to report a fake 1992 No D Lincoln Cent.)A Google search for "reporting counterfeit currency" works perfectly. Many large cities also have local Secret Service offices. We all have to stop counterfeiting whenever and whereever we can.
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 Posted 02/01/2009  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ron6788 to your friends list
There's a ton of Morgan replicas up on ebay as we speak, 5 pages worth! Many of them look suspiciously similar, except for the date- a dark gray EF. Look at my pics. They're all coming from China or Hong Kong. I guess it's ok to make them as long as it's clear they're copies. It's just that it's too easy for people to try to pass them off as real. I'm sure there's international laws against replicating a country's currency, even antiquated ones. It's just that it's probably near impossible to track them down from here.
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 Posted 02/11/2009  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list
After several persuading talks with the seller..... If you'll notice, his bogus listings were removed. I have a sort of threat that was emailed to me do to his loss, though if it continues, the authorities will be notified. Just to let you know, that the current listing appears resolved, until he tries to list them under another name.

Eric
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