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Hipetespockets The line around the bottom of the Cud is the shadow from my camera. There is only one person that is a doubting Thomas. He even came up with an excuse for the flat spot on the reverse. If you know about Cuds on Coins then you will see several Cuds just like mine. I appreciate your input. Happy hunting. I guess it's one of those coins that you have to have in your hand |
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@stevieb, a simple full shot of the obverse and reverse of the coin would easily clear this up. If it is a Cud then even with a cell phone photo is should be fairly easy to solve any confusion here. If it is a Cud then it would be easy to make out by the size of it from a full coin shot. |
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No need for more pictures. As Stevieb said, look on Cuds on coins 84 was a great year. The Cud is on the coin and the weak spot is on the reverse. Glue would have nothing to do with the weak spot. MAD or not. |
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Full coin shots would clear it up, just because it happens to be in the same spot as other Cuds does not mean to much. I can see through the " Cud" in the photos posted which could be due to lighting etc or could just be that it is not a Cud. Much like every other post it is recommend to post a full shot of the reverse and obverse. A Cud is a solid piece of metal protruding from the rim onto the coin face, very easy to see in full coin shots. The close up is not necessary with a Cud this size. If you can see it is not see through then you are correct it is a Cud. But due to the photos posted that's not what I am seeing. This is why full coin shots are always requested. |
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Quote:And I mean over 20 Cuds that look the same as mine except Cuds repeat their exact shape, no "except"s about it. The Cud IS the same, or it's similar. I keep coming back to your " Cud" and the more I look at it, the more it does appear to look like glue. It's the non-matching colour that makes me (us) wonder.  |
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 close up shots with distorted lighting can make anything look like anything. In any post full coin shots are requested to avoid any confusion. If you want to post something accurately then always include full shots. They can show much more then a close up shot |
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stevieb, Is there a coin like yours on COC web site? John1  |
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Hi John1 There several coins on coc that don't match exactly. In my first post I said that there wasn't an exact match on coc. I could send my photo to coc and have it attributed but I'm just to lazy. Have you gone to coc and tried to find a match?
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@stevieb, I never asked you to explain I simply asked for a full shot of the coin, I can see now easily it is definitely a Cud, and a nice one. Close up shots are necessary when requested, full coin shots should always be posted to avoid any confusion. I was never debating weather or not it was a Cud, just the photos posted. You have the coin in hand and such an obvious error only needs the photos posted here. Thank you for finally posting the full photos:). I did not mean to offend in your other post(also this is a duplicate post and should have just continued on the same thread) I was simply saying your photo before was causing confusion due to light distortion on a close up photo. Edit:36 I think was the one I was looking at comparing to yours. But was thinking yours was bigger then 36 and without a full shot could not match anything up. Again I did not mean to question your find simply the photos posted and the lack of a full shot. Edited by Wrekkdd
10/09/2021 2:07 pm
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I actually do nott have a single Cud that I have come across, I was not asking you to explain anything,simply explained that without a full coin shot the image you posted caused confusion. I mentioned you have the coin in hand and that if you can see it is a cud(which from your new photos it clearly is) Close up photos of such an obvious error(a nice one IMHO) are necessary when the original images you posted had light distortion causing the illusion of it being see through. Any error posted should have a clear full shot if the coin to avoid confusion. All that being said, you knew what you had well before me I just wanted a clear photo if I was going to accept the post as what it was. As I said many times all errors posted a full front and back shot are usually requested so that there is no confusion. Nite that many of the other replies from others had question marks? It's hard to confirm something like this with the original photos you posted. Edit: spelling error from autocorrect Edited by Wrekkdd
10/09/2021 3:24 pm
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Dear mr wrekkedd The good news is I've figured out what was wrong with my camera. I understand how important it is to have full size photos. I thought I was able to get away with a simple explanation about my camera but I was wrong. I've found a 1984 double ear and couldn't get full photos and nobody gave me a hard time about it. I'm going to repost that coin for all to see. News at 11:00
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I'm glad to hear you fixed the issue with the camera:), I did not mean to question your skill you have several posts that the error is obvious and there is no full shot, this was just not one of them, at least not to me. I have had many great finds and I truly did not mean to come off as if I was questioning your find. I was questioning the image posted because sometimes(not all the time) a close up shot can have distortion making something look like something else. I have had this issue with glue in the past looking like an inverted mark on a coin but it was just glue lol.
Again, great find and apologize for causing an issue, it was not my intention.
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Quote:
Cuds repeat their exact shape, no "except"s about it. Not true. Cuds can and do grow over time. A piece of the die breaks off, creating the Cud, but if more of the die breaks off before the next strike, the Cud grows a little larger. Do we think that every "pre-cud" crack we find stays that way or do some of them grow into actual Cuds? In fact even Cuds On Coins says: Quote:Many Cuds maintain a consistent size and shape through a production run. Some Cuds grow larger through a production run as additional pieces of die steel break off. The distortion of the lettering on the back is also not indicative of Cud or no Cud as many of the examples on Cuds On Coins show such effects while many others do. These similar coins, for instance, show no distortion to the reverse: CU-1c-1984-52 CU-1c-1984-24 CU-1c-1984-20 CU-1c-1984-67 While these do: CU-1c-1984-64 CU-1c-1984-42 CU-1c-1984-34 CU-1c-1984-33 I lean towards agreeing that it's a Cud because I cannot discern any features from the design on the area in question. However, your photos are too close and too blurry to make a reliable determination. There is an unusual rim feature that appears to run through your Cud that better photos would help clarify. |
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Better photos were added while I was preparing the previous response. Agree that this is a Cud and congratulations on the nice find. |
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Posted 10/08/2021 9:55 pm
For mr. wrekked I fixed my camera so I could get full photos. Why is it that you are so interested in finding somebody who's trying to put a counterfeit posting on this site? I'm going to tell you one more time go on to 
