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1883-O Morgan Grade & Square Ding Explanation

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 Posted 10/28/2021  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
What's a struck through and does it make the coin a detail coin?

I'll work on the obverse photo to get a lighter version.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
It looks like two smaller rectangular marks as opposed to one square mark. Like someone took a flathead screwdriver and hit it a couple of times. I am not sure if this is struck through or not. Is the coin bent, even slightly?

A strike through is when a foreign object gets between the planchet and die during the striking process, causing an impression on the coin of that object. It will not graded details if it is a strike through.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
cant really assess this coin properly due to the lighting. strike is consistent for the year but cannot determine surface originality or remaining luster
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 Posted 10/28/2021  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree, pics with more light on the surfaces would help.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
To me it looks raised rather than impressed on the coin. As a result, it looks like there is some solder laid on top of the coin. Also see some tooling marks next to the raised areas so I am guessing someone was messing with the coin for some reason.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list

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...Is the coin bent, even slightly?


When I lay the coin's rev. on a flat surface and push on the obv RI, I do hear a clicking of the coin going down to touch the surface.

It is extremely minimal but it is nonetheless bent to some degree.

You state that the strike through would not get a details grade but are the two vertical and one horizontal hairline scratches on the cheek obstructive enough to warrant a details grade?

So with all this in mind, what would be the grade?
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 Posted 10/28/2021  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
If I were to think of a possible grade, id estimate it at a MS-63ish.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Here are some lighter photos to grade:




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 Posted 10/28/2021  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Is the square on top of the surface or indent?
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 Posted 10/28/2021  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Because the coin is bent, that would mean that the mystery square is PMD. The damage is major enough to earn this coin the details grade.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list

Quote:
...surface or indent?


indent
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 Posted 10/28/2021  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
MS details, obverse damage.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
OK then,I will stay with struck through.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
If the coin is even minimally bent, the square depression is likely damage causing an irregular surface on the reverse. So I'd say Unc details.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
63 struck through
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