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HF - The milk spots to the right of the "R" in "Dollar" would be my guess as to why that coin scored a 69. But for what you paid for it I wouldn't care either! It's still a gorgeous example! Exactly where I am going with my post. This obsession with a "perfect" coin is meaningless. A PF 69 is as close to perfect and there is NO guarantee that the PF70 if graded again would still merit a PF70. For the price of a regular unslabbed coin you can get one as perfect for half to less than half of the price. Especially bullion coins, why are we slabbing coins that are supposed to be bullion (value of the silver content?) |
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Or am I just screwed at this point and shouldn't waste the time or money trying to either restore or grade it at this point ? Helpppp me please ! Receives help:Quote:
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Ok well what if it is though? Should I just chalk it and possibly lose out on tens of thousands of dollars based off an experience your friend had? I am basing my assumption of it being a 70 based on comparing mine to the 200+ I've viewed on Heritage Auctions and PCGS that are well below the one I have yet they all received a 70 grade and if they did then I cannot fathom how mine wouldn't. Regardless your response didn't touch on the real questions I had in regards to the milk spot and restoration and so on . So any additional insights on that part of my post would be extremely appreciated .  Your milk spot issue is a non-issue as soon as you accept that your coin is 99.99% not a 70. If you are so sure that it is a 70, then send it in for conservation/grading. I'll try my best to not say the 4 painful words "I told you so!"
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You already had a thread created before where you got upset and threw a fit at everyone that told you the chances are slim to none of it being a 70. http://goccf.com/t/411356You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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What I don't understand is this: THIS is the grading section where members submit photos and we do our best to come up with what we think the coin would grade at. So, where's the coin?  |
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It never ceases to amaze me, the obsession people have over so called MS-70 "perfect" coins. Grading is and always has been subjective. Just because a TPG says a coin is MS-70 doesn't necessarily make it so. In their opinion it may be. TPG's have misgraded many a coin over the years. The true test of the grade is convincing a prospective buyer that the grade is what the slab says it is. Some may be easily convinced because the label says so even though the coin may not. Personally I think the MS-70 grade is just another gimmick and I am satisfied with a so called MS-69. If you showed me a MS-70 for $1000 and a MS-69 for $65, I'll take the $65 coin. Looks just as nice in my collection. It is ill advised for people to be spending big bucks on so called MS-70 coins with the sole purpose being investment. The dream that some day they will be worth even bigger bucks. Rarely is that the case. I collect for the beauty, pleasure, and history, knowing quite well that the investment side rarely pays off. |
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Grading is and always has been subjective Exactly. |
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If it's the same coin from the thread that NumismaticsFTW linked above then I don't see it grading 70 at a reputable TPG. I can clearly see numerous imperfections in the fields even from those relatively small photos. |
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Milk spots cannot be removed with damaging the coin, people have tried for decades. The first chemist to figure out the decades old mystery will be rich.
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Quote:If it's the same coin from the thread that NumismaticsFTW linked above then I don't see it grading 70 at a reputable TPG. I can clearly see numerous imperfections in the fields even from those relatively small photos. Agreed, from here I would grade it no less than MS67, though more likely a 68. It does not justify a 69 much less a 70. |
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For the record I couldn't care less if it is 69 or 70 other than the fact that it's worth 13,500 dollars in ms70 and about 55 in ms69 so if that isn't motivation enough to try and locate an ms70 then I guess you're just rich and don't care about money and that's fine good for you. Me however am not that fortunate so when I discover I have a coin that potentially could be worth 13/30k pardon me for getting a little excited. In regards to already making a post about this coin , wrong again. That was for a different 99 eagle I'll post both to prove that. I mean how do all of you coin gurus not realize how valuable the 99 silver eagle at ms70 in regular business bullion is? I feel like it should be pretty evident why I'd be so concerned over this but apparently not? Pics will be posted momentarily
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The coin with the light. Blue card is the new one I was inquiring about on this post and the darker blue was the one for that post .
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It most likely is the lighting but neither looks 70 to me. Best of luck with your submission.
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you're just rich and don't care about money and that's fine good for you... I mean how do all of you coin gurus not realize how valuable the 99 silver eagle at ms70 in regular business bullion is Lol, I wish I was rich. As for me, given that I've worked for a coin dealer for nearly 5 years, I'm pretty sure I know what it's worth, which would be a lot. HOWEVER, your coin is NOT an MS-70, as previously stated, I feel it's a 68 at best. If you really want to prove us wrong, give it a shot, but I can promise you it's a losing endeavor. I've subbed a lot of coins, and I mean a lot and my record of getting things right has been particularly good. |
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 Pass the popcorn. If you're going to submit these coin(s) to PCGS or NGC. Good luck! |
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