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What The Heck Is This 1982 S Proof Nickel?

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 Posted 12/26/2021  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list
Coop do you happen to have your usual diagrams/pictures/informational content for this particular issue? I got 2 people saying its a variety so I'm really dumbfounded, I have no idea what I'm looking at lol

Also how does that explain the third doubling lines on the U's?
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12/26/2021 6:44 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2021  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Me I say variety because when come to proof we expect perfect or near coins. It is recognized variety by the collectors? It is a question to answer. For me personally been proof it is a variety due to the fact is attributed to the printing mint process.

Value I do not know. Will be an 63 or better? also is hard to say because I see some strange lines.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list
I'm not concerned about the value, I am more interested in the knowledge. I love the "why" of things.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
The D, STATES Of are pure MD.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list
@petespockets I agree, like I said in the post there is definitely some MD going on in places, but better than half of it doesn't look like MD to me. Normally I just take coop at his word, but I also was hoping he had some reference material for what he thinks is going on with this coin so I can learn.
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12/26/2021 10:34 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2021  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The proof coins are struck twice. Sometimes you see on Proof coins shadow of the devices on the fields. They are called Flat Field doubling. They look like this:
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This is from Machine Doubling on the first strike and that is flattened on the second strike. The Machine Doubling on the second strike is what I'm seeing on your coin:
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Note on the following images there was a lot of movement and you can see the pushed metal where the contour was:
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This is a higher bounce like on your coin. But on your the height did the same thing on almost the tops of the devices. Still normal sized devices, just altered higher on the devices.
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That is what your are seeing on your coin.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list
There it is. Pictures saved for reference and study. Thanks coop!
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 Posted 12/26/2021  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I'll be adding your images to my education files. Are these JPG or png? I use JPG images and many times I have to convert them by making a screen shot and then save them to the new format to be able to edit them on my program. Probably be quicker to save the full page files and then crop them from there on into JPG later.
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12/27/2021 09:49 am
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 Posted 12/26/2021  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
I do not know for 2020 and 2021, but before every 200 second strike the hammer was recalibrated. The estimation was that 5 coins in 200 had MD, which mean 2.5% by lot of 200. In this hypothesis on 1 mill coins we will have 25 K MD coins which confirm COOP.
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12/26/2021 10:54 pm
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 Posted 12/27/2021  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list
Coop they are jpg I believe

Edit: love the images, I am now immortalized in coops educational images stock! lol thanks again coop.
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12/27/2021 09:54 am
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 Posted 12/27/2021  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list
Hey coop, just heard back from Brian of Brians Varieties, I guess it technically is a wwhr since the working hub from that year was doubled. Obviously a very common one, but a variety nonetheless.
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12/27/2021 4:24 pm
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 Posted 12/27/2021  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
If Brian answer you this: then him contradicted him self if say DDR? (which I do not believe). I thing him say hub and not die, it is a difference. We have two die: hammer and anvil which are installed in the hub (machine or press, take any name, same). Here it is the Brian explanation: https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com...gs/view/1571

Do not jump on (collecting field) conclusions before check all terms meanings.
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@silviosi I mistyped it, my mistake. I meant WWHR but I had DDR on the brain lol my bad.
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 Posted 12/27/2021  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Happened, I tape annealing instead of rim loll (in other topic)
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 Posted 12/27/2021  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
This is not from the same hub issue:
https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com...gs/view/1571
Note the OP's coin is just Machine Doubling from a high bounce.

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